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George_Bonanza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:35 AM Original message |
Hillary is making a HUGE mistake if she's trying to racialize these primaries |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. She assumes they have nowhere else to go |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. i don't know abouit that, but she shouldn't think that way, her campaign... |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Bill and Penn are possibly the worst combo around. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. honestly, i think she should sideline them both right now... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. If she is trying to racialize these primaries... |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. ... then there should be enough Democrats, including white Democrats to smell the BS and stop ... |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
4. To be honest |
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Justyce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That's what I'm wondering -- are the candidates themselves |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Just read a few threads here |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Be very careful trying to get at the truth by reading threads here on DU. Sorry |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. It's only supporters : I don't think Obama is using sexism or is sexist |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. this is implicitly equating a minnow with a whale ... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. What the heck does that even mean? |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
30. In HRC's case, it goes to the top, including the candidate, and, frankly ... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. yes, I do not believe Either candidate is trying to racialize this contest! |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. I'm white and she's already lost my vote because of it... |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
33. exactly on the money -- hopefully many more whites will see this also nt |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. She's sacrificing the black vote |
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George_Bonanza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. But then she loses the GE |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. She'll worry about that if the time comes nt |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Exactly |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. No she's not |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. We will disagree on this, Monkey |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. yup nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. it's getting there, and it's reflected, at least in part, in the |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I don't see it that way |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I'm afraid you're just not seeing things clearly, in that case. |
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murbley40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
39. I don't believe she is racializing this campaign. |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
53. Yes, it's that simple. Race bait then watch minorities get alienated and not vote. |
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enough already (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
16. It doesn't have to be record low turnout |
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PFunk (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. My thoughts exactly |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
19. The Clintons are not trying to "racialize" this race, she is being |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Her campaign is provoking the charges |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I agree with WesDem... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. They'll pull the lever for Clinton |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. ... and, furthermore, Gore radiates irresistable charisma nt |
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zozosmom (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
42. Absolutely, |
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adapa (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
28. if a lie is repeated often & loud, people believe it; Bush taught us that |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Fairy tale remark aside, what about BC's snarky and provocative reference to Nelson Mandela? nt |
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adapa (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. This is Snarky & Provacative?!?! you've got to be kidding |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Yes, snarky and provocative. Favorably comparing HRC to Nelson Mandela PREDICTABLY would ... |
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adapa (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. if you think this is race baiting now wait for the general |
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zozosmom (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. Excellent point... |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
54. "If a lie is repeated often & loud, people believe it." |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
31. Obama's attempt to SwiftBoat Clinton on race continues. |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Who's surrogates made the racially-toned comments first? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. What came first? His lying attacks or her response? Get a freaking clue. |
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zozosmom (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Bet Obama's playing B**** J-Z rap will be completely ignored |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. I don't think he is swiftboating her |
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zozosmom (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Obama was the person who brought it up |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. what? |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
46. THats what they're doing |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
50. "racializing" is a campaign talking point from another candidate (not this word |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
52. It's too late. The damage is done. Expect lower minority turn-out to start... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
55. Bill did it in 1992 with the Sister Souljah jab...so it's just rehashed Carville horseshit |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
56. The Clintons are incapable of admitting publicly they made a mistake, about anything |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
57. Hillary hasn't racialized anything...it is obvious who has done the racialization..... |
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