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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:56 PM Original message |
The Clinton Strategy Has Already Worked, and It's Not What You Think |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. IOW, no one is allowed to say BOO about Obama. Got it. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That's the essence |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Cute, but neither here nor there |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. which is also the essence |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Clever, again |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I do kid you know |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I'm going to try to practice what I preach and not promote negativity |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. great! |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Obama and Edwards... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I'm talking about a specific plan that was put into effect after Iowa |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
64. Well said and |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:59 PM Original message |
Perhaps the worst possible reading of my thread |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. I think you may be right on about that. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. It's surely the opposite of what I said |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. Obama could have and still can put a stop to it. nt |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. Indeed |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. Exellent post - K & R. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree that when we talk about Clinton it drags everything down. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Well, since I'm not a Clinton supporter per se, I'm not really "admitting" |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Well you say she needs politics to be awful in order to win. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Hmmm |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yes! that's what I thought from the beginning! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. No, that's not what I'm saying...and you just fell into the Clinton trap |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
71. It speaks volumes more about Hillary Clinton and her people than it does about |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
10. Maybe the campaign id dirty |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I'm not expecting it to change overnight |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. So in a way |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. No, not at all |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. To be honest, |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Jesse Jackson fell into the trap |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. The premise of the Obama campaign is based on hope |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. And Hillary is now, over the past few days, starting to |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. It's in "The Western Lands" |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Thanks and I |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
11. If anyone was played, that's a shame. If the Hillary campaign is playing a game, it's |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. "Provoking" |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
15. I know it's the way the game is played. It's cut-throat. And I've pretty |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
16. K&R n/t |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
22. Clinton came into the primary with heavy negatives. Her only hope is to spread the darkness aroundt |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. But it's not about spreading negatives about other candidates |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I get what you are saying an appreciate it. I am trying not to engage in some of this stuff |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
29. "if you screamed "racism" at any point, you been had" |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Don't forget the other two! |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
31. Where in the world did you or anyone else get the idea that this primary season would |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
33. Welcome to American Politics. eom |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I never said anything else |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
37. In the eyes of normal people, the Obama supporters are the quintessence of negativity. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Um |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
40. Obama opened the door, and Hillary being the lady she is shut it for him. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Great |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. What Was Senator Obama Doing? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I think Obama was trying to negotiate a very perilous strait (no pun intended) |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:06 PM Original message |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. I Really Didn't Bash Him Here At The Time... I Did Show Solidarity With My GLBT Friends Here |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Clinton will win the general |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. I Agree With A Caveat |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. i laughed out laud when i read your comment. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. We are meant to oppose it fiercely |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Why should I point things like that out, when I have you to do it for me? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Keep it up! |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. So I am on the Truman show then? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Have a nice day |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I will, If I knew where to get my checks. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
54. Wait a minute |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. 1. I did not say they made racist comments |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
55. I'm with you to an extent |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. That's a good argument...really the only strong counter-argument so far |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I think the Clintons are good at identifying weakness |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. It's an argument for what's going on, and a plea not to get involved with it |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
56. The Clintons know how to win by turning people off politics. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
58. So YOU got duped, too? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. I've said nothing about super secret anything |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Once the Clintons came up with |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. It's not a big mystery |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
60. If I could just make a single 5-word response to this entire thread thus far... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Fair enough |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
75. Where is our choice? |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
76. K&Rd. I have never seen so many fish reeled in in such a short time. Great post. n/t |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
77. I Thought The Same Thing, But Didn't Express It |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
78. Great Post -- I hope they are not that cynical but I fear they may be |
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