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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:52 AM Original message |
Joe Biden's presidential run...and a warning. |
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givemebackmycountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. I liked Joe - I liked him a lot.... |
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BobRossi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I agree. |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. Moral victories are hollow and serve no purpose for those who need a real voice. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. They'd better learn to quit depending on others and start depending on themselves. |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. Good upstanding people have been reduced to dependency though no fault of their own |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. This is a discussion about voting and elections. |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. I really do think that your conclusion is right on the mark... |
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BobRossi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Well said. nt |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Thank you. nt |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. I do think that Edwards has the best chance of winning of the remaining candidates |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. I supported Biden, but I really don't get the protest vote |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I Am A Independent Progressive - Changed In 2004 Because Of The |
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givemebackmycountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. absolutely, positively spot on! |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. The idea that Jean is speaking to is that if you beat your head against the wall long enough... |
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moodforaday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
60. Corection: |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. That's Just Crazy |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Then chose a winner, not someone you know will not withstand the Repubs... |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
86. win lose win lose |
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Stand and Fight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. That is by far the most stupid statement I've read this year... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
10. If you do that, check the elecitonr esults in your state to see if that vote was counted. |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. I've Thought Of Leaving Too |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. We're not abandoning them; they're abandoning us. |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. I like Biden for many reasons one being he doesn't give up the GOAL! |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. Nice tact, but personally I think Biden will be more focused on doing the people's work. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
15. Joe Biden ran a lousy campaign. He managed to get attention for his Foreign Policy cred but FAILED |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. It's a little hard to run an effective..... |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. It's because you are very good at objectively weighing issues... |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
39. Can you say money$$$? |
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renegade000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
18. i agree |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
19. Spot On Post - Rec |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. is it the 'narrow minded Americans' or the inability of the candidate to package his message? |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I have posted before... |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yeah, everyone liked him SO much.... |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Excellent Post, Corona n/t |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. And not only that Steely, but think about this for a second... |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. I agree with your assessment... |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. See my post above. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
56. Unfortunately, you're right. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
77. Not the leadership I deserve! |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. If we did we, as a country, would have voted for him. We didn't. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Came across this provocative article about the great literary critic Harold Bloom. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Yes, I read that -- and saved it. Brilliant. nt |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
20. Your candidate dropped out, so...fuck the party and the country? |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. So...Tell Me |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I'd think he wasn't very successful as a candidate, and accept that |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Perhaps... |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Hmm.... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. LOL! I have considered not voting, just so I don't jinx it again. |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I've never picked a winner either. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
58. But WHY did the Democrats lose, |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I heartily concur. |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Biden was not forced to drop out |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Oh, Welcome Back "inthebrain" |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I can't seeeee hiiiimm... |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
75. ... |
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Jennifer C (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #46 |
88. LOL Corona |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
91. LOL...me EEEEEITHER! Hahahahaha! |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I have to appease the asolutists. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. You know, now that I'm no longer in "defense-mode" |
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livvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
66. I have an assignment for you, should you be willing to accept it. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
74. Did I miss some "in the brain" action? |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
92. I wouldn't do that...we can still laugh at him while he's on "ignore" |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
49. Sorry, but, did you say...John Mccain? Batshit crazy John McCain? 100 years in Iraq |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Clue: Most Americans voted for him in 2004. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
51. understood |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. If Edwards is still a viable candidate by the time my state's primary takes place... |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Well Thought Out Post |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
78. I just read an article that mentioned Edwards was the only candidate -- Dem |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. gateley... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #84 |
90. Awww, Two Americas -- |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
55. You said it all... |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Look what's going on now... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
59. Our country's future is more fragile and threatened than any time |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. I'm with you, gateley. Biden didn't only stand the best chance of winning the general election, |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
62. Biden turned me off because he supports MBNA and the Drug War. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Yeah, especially those hair plugs. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
64. exactly |
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demommom (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
67. Thank you so much ginchinchili!! |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Thanks, but I must disagree on one point; you expressed yourself very eloquently. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
68. I completely understand. I was 100% for Joe, and he would have been the |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
70. Outstanding Thread...n/t |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Hi, Steely_Dan. It's always a pleasure. |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Indeed... |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Sounds like it's already coming together. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
76. Write in his name with great pride. |
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phillyliberal (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. agreed. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Thank you. I appreciate that. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
85. He should have stayed |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
87. zzzzzzzzz............ |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:58 AM Response to Original message |
89. Biden was screwed by the media |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
93. I did that in 2004 when our primary came around |
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