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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:26 AM Original message |
Hillary's pollster says Hispanics may be reluctant to support a black candidate. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. As I understand it, Hispanic pollsters do not support Hillary. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. That's completely true. I'm Latino, and I know that very well... |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. What is the cause of this... |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I'll be back soon and will gladly explain it. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
71. Latinos can be just as racist as whites |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Yep you are so right. |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. Depends on what latino community you're talking about. Take NYC. Racial generalizations dont help |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. I never said that Latinos would not vote |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
78. Agreed |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
76. It's inappropriate to use this to scare voters |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. No, not "for every hispanic voter... there's another..." |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. It's just more race baiting and I'm fed up with it n/t |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
3. Is That An Empirical Observation Or A Normative One |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It's reality, man. I'm behind Obama, but I know my community well enough. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Let's stipulate that is true. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I Also Think The "Prejudice" Angle Can Be Overplayed |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. You argued that what the pollster said is simply a truism. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. They Would Be Benefiting From A Natural Phenomenon |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
58. The culinary workers union in Nevada is largely hispanic. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. There was a lot of division within the union. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. They also endorsed Obama the day after Hill "won" NH |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. All of those union endorsements sure did Dean and Gephardt a lot of good. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Well, we're talking about hispanic voters |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I think Obama will win the Nevada Caucus, but it won't be by virtue of |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
81. it also explains why Richardson made his exit before even getting to these states |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
4. duplicate |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
6. Okay, somebody at the H. Clinton campaign is not thinking properly. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Sarah... do you think that matters? |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I think we should ask Chicanos. I know some Cubans try to pretend they're not black.... |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Chicanos? LOL! Sarah... please... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I like Chicanos. I'm not one, but I like them. And they're pro-union. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Can someone explain the term Chicanos to me? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Ha |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. That's scary. Did you know that the last president of Cuba (before Castro), was black? |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Yes you are right |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. However, there are more men that will not vote for a woman (H. Clinton) than Latins that won't vote |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. If you think so. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
14. There is racism and lotsa homophobia in the Latino community |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. MARICON |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Just as Bill Clinton used coded racist language in his interview with Charlie Rose |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
15. that's statistically true, but you're not allowed to hurt the tender feelings of Obamanation here. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. wyld, I know it's true and I don't deny it. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I Love All People |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. OK, Katz |
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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
23. it's a HILLARY pollster for God's sake. Let's hear an independent pollster say it n/t |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
25. Divide, divide, divide |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. The Pollster Made An Empirical Observation Not A Normative One |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I think he knows the research. Hillary's campaign follows suit to seek advantage accordingly. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. For Clinton's sake, he should keep his mouth shut |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Why was he highlighting it? |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
28. Latin America has a history of discrimination against darker-skinned people |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. How true. |
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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Some hispanics? How many hispanics are worse than the KKK? n/t |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Man... you don't understand. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. The Venezuelan elites that Hillary supports are all lilly white European blooded |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. I've read enough about it and talked to lots of people from the region |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
31. Hillary's pollster? Pollster? And we are believing this pollster because....? |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
33. I'm actually surprised that they're looking at supporting a woman. One step at a time, I guess. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. In Latin America |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Do you see this changing any time soon? What can be done, if anything? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. No, won't change anytime soon. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. While You're Here Tell Me If This Is True |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Because racism and nationalism is not limited to white America |
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LaReservaPr (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Because |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I Should Be More Precise |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
75. It's the same here in the USA |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. OK, i officially hate Clinton. This is disgusting |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. It'll break her heart, but I'll break it to her gently. |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Yea, laugh it off. This is how democrats lost the NYC 2001 Mayoral election |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Hillary's supporters are known for their arrogance. |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
77. Ive honestly never perceived this until lately |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
49. Is Mark Penn pulling things out of his oversized ass again? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Just stirring the shit pot |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
82. i don't think so. i've read that several times before and heard it on the news... |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
52. What crap. Lots of hispanics are biracial |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
56. After studying Latin American history for years this makes sense to me. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. But we aren't talking about Latin America. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Having witnessed the dueling racism in Milwaukee between |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. I think that's a different issue. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
70. More race baiting by the Clinton Campaign |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Bill Clinton began the race baiting on the Charlie Rose interview |
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MollieBradford (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
73. he shouldn't have said it |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
74. That's okay, Obama isn't really black, remember? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
84. hillary continues to be predictable |
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