Was John Kerry accused of stealing primaries?
sandnsea
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:22 AM
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Was John Kerry accused of stealing primaries? |
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Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 12:23 AM by sandnsea
Particularly NH??
Anybody going to fess up to it? Particularly anybody who has gone to Clinton and is suddenly appalled at election theft charges?
You know who you are.
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:25 AM
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:28 AM
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5. Ironically, there is a fascinating quote in there. |
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From the Magistrate:
"You would need some indication the votes produced in the counties using machines differed from the votes actually cast in those counties. You have no evidence whatever of that."
The funny thing is, we have EXACTLY THAT in the NH primaries unless I am mistaken.
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Thu Jan-10-08 01:04 AM
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What happened to that poster eloriel?
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Bonobo
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:25 AM
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2. Is it possible to question without accusing? That is what I am trying to do. |
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We clearly have voting fraud in this country as you must know.
We need a system of verification. Otherwise we will be at the mercy of whoever is controlling the count.
It is not about Hillary VS Obama VS Edwards.
Can you not see that?
I am a Clark>Edwards supporter. Not for Obama. I think he will not bring significant enough change either.
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sandnsea
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:27 AM
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3. I support verification |
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It would be nice if you would disconnect your election reform advocacy from Obama. It isn't fair to sabatoge his campaign with sour grapes election fraud charges.
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:30 AM
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6. It is not connected to Obama for me, as I said. |
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But ironically you have hit upon the reason why Obama cannot say anything EVEN IF he suspected shenanigans. It would be a death sentence for his campaign.
That's why it is up to the people themselves to demand fair and transparent elections.
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:28 AM
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until the presidential election..so that was the beginning of my education on our voting system. Knowing what I do now, I would not have any confidence in that primary either. That doesn't mean he "STOLE" it...it means..who the fuck knows?
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:31 AM
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7. Exactly. Who the fuck knows. The only fools in my mind are the ones claiming certainty. |
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There is no room for doubt in this mother fucking election.
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:38 AM
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8. I'm actually starting to have fun... |
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with this shit. I can't believe the depth and breath of some thick-headed people. It's like fantasy land. They just can't be for real...or can they? ..logic and reason are like a foreign language...they keep repeating the same phrases over and over..one sentence usually..with no change in syntax. But then...I am such a fool to play this game. I know how it ends.
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:53 AM
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9. It's fucking weird. Normally intelligent people have had their logic circuits blown out! |
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I agree completely.
As you say, logic and reason seem to have become a foreign language.
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Thu Jan-10-08 12:59 AM
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10. Well, then if something similar happened 4 years ago, then it seems we have a problem |
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Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 01:00 AM by Kucinich4America
It's not a question of Kerry or Dean or Clinton or Obama, but a question of whether it is possible to get a reliable vote count out of New Hampshire at all.
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