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peoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:32 AM Original message |
"They were all not just wrong, but wildly wrong. But only for the Clinton/Obama race." |
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PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
1. K and R. this is EXACTLY what I"m thinking |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Edwards should call for a recount. |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. Haven't paid attention to that guy, was he part of "the wave"? |
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AmBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Um, Bradblog... |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. I don't know what "the wave" is... |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Pleased to meet you! |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. If this happened in Mexico or Pakistan there would be a lot of raised eyebrows here. nt |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. They were wrong because they gave the indy vote too much weight. |
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DUyellow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. yup, they didn't want to get it wront twice. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
36. Yup. |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Where's your DATA for that??? |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. As far as the exit polling goes... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Or were the exit polls match to the later reported results like they were in 2004? |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Yes, we got only adjusted exit polls. No raw data |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. K&R .. thanks. By tomorrow, the MSM will have found a way to |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Here's the MSM storyline that explains everything |
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. If exit polls matched the outcome its likely an honest outcome, but i wondered too. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
41. We never get the see the raw exit poll data. |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
7. I have no candidate in this race |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. Maybe it was a Republican test run for cheating. |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Dead on! |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. That's why this needs to be questioned, no matter who it would benefit |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. This would fit with that Rethugs LOVE Hillary as Dem nominee.. check out this article |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Yep. Same shit different cycle. Until ALL ....EACH & EVERY person who |
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RuleOfNah (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
37. How about a recount test run? |
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moodforaday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
57. That's a good theory |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
60. Yep, and there is a built-in excuse already being floated in the MSM. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
10. What do the exit polls say? |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I want to see if there is a discrepancy between the hand-counted and the diebold-counted votes. |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. It sounds like Brad and Bev are going to be digging for those numbers. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
49. Obama won the hand-counts. |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Hand counts are rural and small towns. What are |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
42. After what happened in 2004, why should we believe exit polls? |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
11. I hate to say it but I wouldn't put it past someone in the Clinton campaign. |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
14. K&R! Folks, please DIGG this story! n/t |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. done.... |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
16. Some group that's not tied to a candidate needs to challenge this--a candidate can't do it |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Howard Dean ? nt |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Heres a thought... |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. Bullshit... |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Hey, I agree with you, that's unfortunately the way they think. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
47. Why not RFK Jr.? He did a great investigation for Rolling Stone n/t |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. That would be good. He supports Clinton so |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
20. Hillary cried... |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. No. That had to be a wash. nt |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
28. It is obvious. The special variable is race in Hillary/Obama |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #28 |
52. Are racists more likely |
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ben_meyers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
29. If any of this is true Obama needs to call for a recount and |
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peoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
34. "Hillary's internals showed her losing by 11%" |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. If the Clintons were guilty of arranging to steal an election |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
39. flashbacks to 2004 |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
44. Furthermore, none of the Obama people saw this coming. Are they not alert? |
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moodforaday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #44 |
58. Were Kerry's people alert? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
45. Shameful |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
46. Because the right wing press HAS to be correct all the time |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. It's not that at all. Did you read this? |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
53. I thought BO was relying on the indie/youth vote and they didn't pan out. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
55. The point is, you cannot be sure |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
56. Again, hate to say it, but FOX News Exit Polling called it for Hillary 39-37. nt |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. CNN exit polls also had HRC as the winner last night. n/t |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
59. "Iron my shirt" and "she's faking those tears". |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Yeah, right, all fifty thousand of them. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
63. K&R. (nt) |
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