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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:53 PM Original message |
"We don't need to be raising the false hopes of our country about what can be delievered." |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. When she said this, I feel she sealed her fate. |
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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I don't know how any presidential candidate can say that about the beliefs |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I was very shocked. This country is suffering so badly after decades of right wingers... |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I agree. It makes her sound cynical and jaded - |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. She also hurt herself! And it showed that she would NOT try for big changes. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. That was definitely her worst moment last night, worse than losing her temper. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I don't begrudge her getting angry. Everyone has that right! Everyone! However.... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. It wasn't so much getting angry as taking it personally. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Yep. That's true. nt |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. Pretty soon when the smoke clears, were going to see that jr |
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SCDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. With hope comes action |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Oh please. |
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SCDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Or you can sit on your couch and not do a thing |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Trust me I have better things to do than listen to Obama |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. however, I notice you have plenty of time to mudsling Obama |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. T_C_O abhors buzz. |
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SCDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yep that was a jaw dropper for me |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yup. n/t |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
12. She probably shound't have said it, but just look at our reaction |
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yourguide (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. the dems dont control enough of the senate to get much of... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. That's sweet that you're always |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I guess I as excusing Hillary although that wasn't my intent. I do |
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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. But if you take big change off the table as a "false hope" what are you left with? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. You're totally surprising me.. |
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Democrats_win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
20. She speaks the truth of today's Washington. Can that be changed? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. That was then this is now.. |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. Fortunately the presidency isn't a delivery service |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
23. as distressing as it may be, |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
25. Where Would Liberalism Be Without Hope? All Major Social Changes |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
26. Making excuses for not fighting the corporates and their lobbyists... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
27. She was speaking of a huge overhaul of "how Washington does business" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I've heard "false choices" used, but I don't like the "false hope" meme. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I see what you mean |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
28. Because America's always been about reduced expectations. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
29. sadly, this emphasizes what is wrong with beltway dems. |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
32. I wonder if $5,000 to every newborn child was a false hope? |
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