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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:40 PM Original message |
Obama: "religious traditions" behind opposition to gay marriage. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Context? No? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. context: explaining his position on gay marriage. nt. |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Indianajones doesn't know what context means. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. Here's the context: Obama on marriage equality |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Which religion? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I censored myself before I said that. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. His church, I believe |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
52. First Christian church to ordain gay clergy and approve gay marriages. |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. I heard he was a muslim |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. Obama supports repealing the part of DOMA that says that states don't have to recognize gay marriage |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. So what part is he LEAVING IN? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. perhaps a new bipartisan federal ban on gay marriage is forthcoming. nt. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
62. Unlikely, since Obamavoted against the last one. n/t |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. Nothing, he wants to repeal the whole thing unlike Clinton |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. well you're wrong about that |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. And let me see... under which administration was DOMA enacted? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. Obama supports repealing ALL OF IT. NT |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. That is correct |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. I know, I'm sorry for not making that clear, I was just pointing out the difference between the two |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. This is about Obama, not Hilary. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Goshdarnit, everything is about Hillary |
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jackpan1260 (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'll take Obama over Clinton, thanks. eom |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. Oh, nice. So much for separation of church and state. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Good point!!!!!!!!! This religious leadership has me very |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. Provide a link to whatever you claim Obama is behind. Thanks. nt |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Here's the quote from Obama himself: |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. This is a secular nation |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #30 |
56. What a repulsive quote |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #30 |
61. And here's a link to the article the quote was taken from: |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
16. Uh, DUH, it's behind everybody's opposition |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. So why is Hillary against it? nt |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. So his superstitions explained away why equaly rights don't apply to gays? Thank god (mine not his) |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
19. http://www.tucc.org/about.htm |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. He is NOT a member of that church. He belongs to United Church of Christ. |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, of which Obama is a member. |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I just read further.... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
53. Yes, he is a member of that church, and that church is a congregation |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. OMG. A black church on the south side of chicago? |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. a bit more complex.. |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I have. I'm familiar with Trinity. |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA. |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I've actually visited the church. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. what the hell |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. How again is FACT racist...I am sharing what I found on MM'S |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. I've heard his pastor speak about this, and you don't understand. |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. oh.. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Yes. I've taken my confirmation classes to worship there, |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
57. So, a churchgoer must necessarily believe everything a church does? |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
21. Obama for full repeal of DOMA... Hillary is NOT |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. But the part of DOMA that Obama wants repealed |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Don't confuse the OP with facts. Just enjoy the victory tomorrow. nt |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
27. It's Hard To Believe |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
32. So what is behind peoples oppositions to gay marriage? |
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maxanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
39. chill, dude |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. His candidate didn't sponsor anti-gay concerts, dude. |
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maxanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. agreed |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. Keep your religion off my rights! |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
48. This is total bullshit coming from a Clinton supporter. Your candidate is not clean either. nt |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
50. I'm convinced you are a substance abuser |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
51. Obama panders to bigots and homophobes... |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Or he uses an anti-gay preacher to get anti-gay voters behind a pro-gay politician... |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Dupe |
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KennedyGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
60. Fuck Obama |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
64. Didn't Kerry say the same thing? |
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