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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:33 PM Original message |
How Did Hillary blow it? |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. Bringing up Obama's kindergarten essay.... |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The 'kindergarden essay' was her defending herself against something nasty obama said about HER..... |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Well, she screwed herself doing it. n/t. |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Because the MSM intentionally turns every word against her. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. ooh, that was very nasty |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. They all need to shut up and tell us WHY we should vote FOR them, |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I agree... |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Change is really a big narrative to come out of Iowa |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
53. This is downright scary. The world is in sinful shape and needs |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't think she's blown anything yet. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Agreed |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. MI is out, they moved their primary up and have been penalized. |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. The delegates for Michigan won't count now... |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Agree. |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. Srsly |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. see number 5 and my OP |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. See the history of every past election |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. Right: they are incompetent and can't execute on negative. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. agree. her campaign fucking sucked. |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. One question? What is going to be said next week if HRC wins......... |
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beberocks (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Exactly! Saying that HRC blew it is a gross distortion of reality. |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. I don't think they can |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I don't think voters can be told what to think, specially in these times. |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Many here don't seem to understand the part that delegates play in the nomination. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
7. This can easily be over-analyzed. We've a long way to go. She hasn't blown it yet. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. She intentionaly ignored or opposed the base, and it pissed us off and motivated us. |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. I'm not sure she ever had the "lead". The media said she did. She is also overexposed, |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
15. Hillary blew it 7 years ago when she got in bed with the neocons. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. Good point |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. Be careful about EVER writing a Clinton off.... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. No one wrote her off- that is why 2 candidates worked extra hard and beat her. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. bill was a master pol. She ain't close to his shadow. |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
18. In a word, arrogance. |
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billyskank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
19. Maybe most of her lead was a positive feedback effect in the press. |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. As MM flint put it, it was her support of the War. albeit political calculus rather than Ideological |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
21. I don't think Hillary blew it so much as Obama won it. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
22. For me it's two things: Arrogance and phoniness. |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. a lot of those new people at the demo caucuses were independents and repubs |
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Ytzak (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. Hillary lost because she failed to recognize a change in the political climate... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Nail, meet hammer. n/t |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
30. Forgive my ignorance--did that thing with Kucinich throwing some votes to Obama ever materialize? |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
33. I am not an Obama supporter, esp. after McClurkin, but it was clear |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
39. She didn't "blow" it. She never "had" it. |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. BS. She has it and you will know it! |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Bookmarking for after she loses NH and SC |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
41. it's the DAMN WAR you Voted for, HILLARY! |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Do we need to be so visceral in our hatred of other Dems |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. that's not my problem. She supports war, i don't want her in office |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. No, only you, obviously, are the "aware" person. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
43. Yup. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
48. She's a cold fish. The right wingers had more interest in her campaign than I did |
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gorekerrydreamticket (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
49. All she's blown so far has been a pile of her cash... |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
50. She didn't blow anything. Into everyone's life, strife cometh. Obama was her strife. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
52. Running on her record and policies. |
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