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Greenwood Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:37 PM
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McCain scares me to death. Do we have any dirt on him?
This guy was a war hero and, apparently, he is liked by both parties although some in the GOP consider him GOP lite.

This guy worries me in a general election. Do we have any dirt on him?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:38 PM
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1. Yes. He's pro-war. Enough said. nt
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:39 PM
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2. nothing, except his little speech on pork barrel and "earmark" politics was totally a joke
He's taken the bacon home to Arizona plenty over the years.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:39 PM
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3. There's that whole "mental illness" thing.
That can't be helping him.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:43 PM
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14. lol my money's on dementia
poor thing
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:12 PM
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33. OK elehhhhna - you can tell me because no one is watching here.
Who is the bad employee in your other thread?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:06 PM
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35. there are several, really...
but Mister Health Insurance Company and Mister Public Servant come to mind.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:39 PM
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4. We can beat him. The problem is that we have a rock-paper-scissors situation I believe.
The candidate who can beat McCain isn't necessarily the candidate who can beat Romney or Huckabee, and vice versa.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:39 PM
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5. His tireless support of the war should do the trick.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:39 PM
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6. So you never heard of this McCain fella, huh?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:40 PM
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7. Democrats and especially DUers don't like McCain's politics and views.
In any case, he tends to go around hugging Pretzeldent Chimpy. :puke:
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:40 PM
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8. can we still use the "Keating 5" against him
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:46 PM
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18. Dam right. The Keating 5 is what came to my mind, too
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:40 PM
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9. Yeah look at him on camera
Thats all the dirt you need
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:41 PM
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10. I smell something funny with this post.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:42 PM
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11. your concern will be read into the record.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:42 PM
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12. The MSM LOVES their "straight shooter"
Russert, Matthews, Broder, and the all the Beltline "in crowd" will be pumping McCain like the Second Coming. A dangerous candidate.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:43 PM
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13. I would not refer to him as a War Hero
I am a veteran and have every bit of respect for what McCain went through in NAM but he wasn't a hero. Regardless of his politics which I do not appreciate, he is too damned old.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:44 PM
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15. I've heard many other vets agree with you, Bosshog. McCain is more of a survivor than a war hero.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:47 PM
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19. He gets
my utmost respect as an Officer who served in the Navy but I cannot identify his actions (as a prisoner of war) as heroic.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:57 PM
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27. and
you always get our respect for all you've done and for speaking up on our behalf, good buddy.

BTW, one thing that makes me sick about McCain is how he doesn't hesitate to use his POW experience to get himself out of trouble, such as if someone is coming down hard on him for something, he'll say something to the effect, "I didn't spend all those years as a POW to listen to you...." and so on....

Aside from that, McCain's stability troubles the hell out of me. I think his temper could really get this country into deep shit if a serious crisis were to arise.

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:02 PM
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30. Thank You My Friend and Happy New Year
My contribution was no more or no less valuable then the plumbers and electricians and check out clerks and others who get up and do it everyday. And your point about his stability is right on the money. And imagine the possibility of him being our President in, oh say, three or four years when his instability has had time to "mature" as it were.

An insane, unstable zealot. The perfect gop candidate.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:01 PM
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29. Well I'm not a fan of the man at all
but remember he had a chance to get released years earlier and refused to leave if the others could not. Had he simply been an unwilling POW then sure, more of a survivor than a hero (though possibly both of course - not exclusive at all) but when he deliberately chooses to remain a POW in solidarity with teh others who did not have his connections, then we're getting pretty damn close to hero in my book. Certainly very brave, perhaps very foolish, but then again it's hard to be a completely rational hero isn't it?
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:45 PM
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16. "Americans would not pick lettuce for $50 an hour."

Comment he made at a union event to which nearly the entire crowd spontaneously responded along the lines of, "where do I sign up?"


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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:46 PM
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17. he approves of torture. and all you have to do is look at the pic of him embracing
der chimpenfuhrer.

(sorry, I don't have it saved, but I know lots of people on DU do. anybody???)
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:47 PM
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20. He shook my hand when I was in 2nd grade
Im pretty sure he had callouses!
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:48 PM
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21. There is a controversy regarding the USS Forrestal explosion.
Info is available on the web. He was on the ship when the accident happened. He was quickly removed from the ship.
Prisoners of war are not the heroic ones. The people that rescue them are. POW's show courage by existing and surviving their capture. :dem:
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:48 PM
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22. How about this?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:49 PM
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23. It won't be up to us so much as it will be up to the media.....
and I believe that they actually "like" McCain, and have been making up for how they dealt with him back in 2000.

There is some dirt on him, but there is a lot of good that the media can "use" to balance out the bad. Just like folks are stating that things that happened 4 years ago are "ancient history".....There is not as much recent fodder to use against McCain as Democrats want to believe.

They put him under the radar for the last few months, which was the best place that he could be. Voters like a Fresh face, and had they not stopped reporting about him, he would have looked as old as he actually looks.

Out of those on the Dem side that can beat McCain, the two frontrunners are better equiped than the others, IMO. One because she's been close enough to a commander in chief not to look weak next to McCain (and if she picks the right runnning mate, could totally deflate McCain's perceived FP expertise), and Obama, because he is so much the opposite of McCain, could easily defeat him, IMO.

Also, since neither Hillary or Obama have signed on the accepting matching funds, and neither has McCain, they are our best bet not to allow the media to take over and crown McCain.

That's my take and prior predictions I have made about McCain:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FrenchieCat/120
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3852068
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:51 PM
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24. I used to respect McCain to some degree before 2000
That's when he was considered a "maverick" Repuke who wasn't afraid to take on his own party. Hell, he even worked with Russ Feingold on a famous campaign finance law, which unfortunately didn't go anywhere near far enough, but at least it was an attempt.

But after his own party turned on him in the 2000 South Carolina primary, McCain fell in line behind the Chimp, and (aside from his opposition to torture, based on personal experience) his nose has been buried firmly in the monkey's ass ever since.

Problem is, that some people don't even realize he sold out. There were even "Democrats" pushing for him as a running mate for John Kerry in 2004.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:53 PM
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25. Nothing to fear from McCain more than from any other GOP money-whore.
He even nearly condemns torture, sort of, sometimes.
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hermetic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:55 PM
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26. Unnn
try Googling or Wikepedia for "McCain senator savings loan debacle."

Just answering.....
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:59 PM
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28. Same here. McCain is the most unstable candidate out there. His temper could sink us in a crisis
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Greenwood Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:12 PM
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32. He does have a terrible temper.....
Would not be surprised if we could get some good examples of him going berserk and use that. Americans don't like that "trigger temper" mentality.

But, mark my word, the media seems to like this guy and he would be a formidable opponent.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:10 PM
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31. For the left -- he is pro-war
For the right -- he pissed on the religious right back in 2000. Remind them of that fact.
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 05:53 PM
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34. This is a story that may or not be relevant ,but has stuck with me.
Last Spring while trying to get health insurance, the salesman I was dealing with was a partially disabled Viet Nam vet who has spent a considerable time in VA hospitals. In the course of our conversations I said that he would probably be a McCain backer as he was a lifelong repub and McCain being a vet. He shocked me by saying that under no circumstances would he ever vote for him as he considered him unstable. He said that he had run across several POW in the hospital system and all had serious problems relating to their civilian circumstances. One of the things he said was that they all were prone to anger problems, some with violent consequences. He said he didn't know if McCain suffered to that extent, but would not be willing to take that chance. (PS I was turned down for the insurance; pre-existing condition)
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:07 PM
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36. google 'McCain dirt'. Some interesting stuff.
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