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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 09:56 PM Original message |
Sen. Obama's Shifting Positions On Health Care For All |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Right on cue |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. the facts say he either shifted his position repeatedly or forgot his position a number of times |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. FactHub, huh? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. uh... so? Anything not factual? Is MSNBC, CNN, Burton, and Obama wrong? Or... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I guess the facts must have an anti-Obama bias |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. well, katz. Anything NOT factual? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
24. Yes, that you thought this up yourself. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. where was it stated "I thought this up myself." You replied just to reply. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. You posted this as though you did the research, assembled the "facts", and added your commentary. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:42 AM Original message |
amazing you think you have insight into my intent. No, sorry... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
33. I disapprove of your plagiarism. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. ok.. fine... alert the mods. LOL! (since you can't debunk the content) |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I just checked. You have 60 minutes to edit. That means you have 9 minutes left to be honest. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. dude. The OP was made 3 days ago. My time was up about 71 hours ago. See the alert button? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. OK, sorry. I thought this was fresh. It doesn't change the fact this is dishonest. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. it doesn't change the fact I forgot to source it. Why would I do it intentionally? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Why would you do it? Let's think about this. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. ha ha. Completely invalid reasoning from you |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. OK |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. ha ha. Oh, that is so rich! |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. Yes, it's all out there, and you have got nothing |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Eeuuwww.... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. You can set your watch by it. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
23. The level of dishonesty by the OP is shameful. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. show me the part that isn't factual? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. The part where you didn't link back to Hillary Hub. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. hmm... so since I forgot to link to the source... that is "not factual?" |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. No, it's not credible |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. disprove it, then. Find counter links that make the content lies. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Why should he? Why should you not have to prove that these snippets out of context represent |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. because the burden of proof is not on me. If he says it isn't factual, his job is to prove it. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. It is not factual because whoever wrote that tries to have us believe that they changed their |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. disprove it, then. Find counter links that make the content lies. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Why should I? Prove that it represents Obama's plan spirit? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. because you're the one challenging it. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I have nothing to prove. I said that what Obama said in the quotes is correct and right. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. yeah, "correct and right" until he changed his mind then back again. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. changed his mind then back again? - are we taliking about Bill Clinton?!? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Yanno, these HRC people over here are making me dislike their candidate.. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. At this point he will offer to make free personal house calls, hot toddy included |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. And do it "prayerfully" IF you join his Kingdom! |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. Ouch! A 10% Drop In Just A Month! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Ouch! Still leading by double digits in all Feb. 5 states. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. Like a fish out of water...floppin like mad... |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Not only forgets the Plan but forgets the question and sometimes who he's talking to.. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
15. K&R! Now that kinda waffling would NEVER hurt him in the General Election. |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
16. You would do your candidate better service by starting threads that explain why HRC is better |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. No kidding! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. ha ha! That is hysterical from you. Hey... can you disprove anything in the post? |
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Spirit of 34 (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
17. I'm not a Kucinich supporter |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. Criminalizing insurance coverage is not guaranteeing it |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
21. This? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
22. Your post is dishonest. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. um... so because amid all the div set ups and excerpts, I forgot to link the source... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. It doesn't matter if the dishonest. You are. You have 15 mintutes to fix your mistake. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. actually, there's a 30 minute window, but again... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Not, it's 60 minutes. Try it. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. well, it is 15 or is it 60? LOL! But didn't you read my last reply? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. You knew 13 minutes after you posted it. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. no I didn't. How does your link in any way show that? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
32. And you know what? he is right. Clearly, you never have had to buy an health insurance with a small |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
59. So let's be clear then. Obama does not support Universal Health Care |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Hilllary's healthplan is not universal either. Only universal healthcare is single payer. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. That's just stupid |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. If there is no penalty. how is it different from Obama's plan? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. You obviously are unfamiliar with both plans |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. No, I was saying that they are as much universal one than the other.,. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. You said Obama's plan wasn't universal. Now you're saying it is |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. LOL. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Sure, you said that Obama's plan was "far better" then Hillary's plan |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Well, if Hillary's plan does not offer a mandate, which is what you say, the plans are |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Hillary's plan DOES have a mandate. Can't you get anything right? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. *crickets* |
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