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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:10 PM Original message |
I want a president who will tell the unvarnished truth... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. One that I know of... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Such a person does not exist--you can't be in politics for very long by |
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againes654 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kucinich |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. There is no such candidate. |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. So, which liar are you voting for? nt |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Hopefully Al Gore. Otherwise, I don't know. (nt) |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. care to provide an example? n/t |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Not really. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
65. Didn't think so. Lying is something that I'm very sensitive to and I haven't caught him |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. As I expected, you'll believe what you want to believe. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. I guess we'll never know since you've told us nothing. |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. What about DK's recent "THEY'RE TRYING TO SILENCE ME" crap about the AARP forum and the Steak fry? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Is he a candidate for President? Was he invited? Is AARP an insurance company? |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 05:47 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. No, as a matter of fact he was invited. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Oh yes, the dog ate his invite.... |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. What would you call it |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. If another candidate was, in fact, excluded, I would agree with them too. |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Occam, as in Occam's razor? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 01:55 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I really hope you're not as thick as you pretend to be, but then, the alternative is almost as sad. |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. I hope you're not as thick either. |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. I hope you don't hold everyone to that same standard ... |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. "Honest decent people lie." |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Do you lie? Are you honest and decent? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I asked you first. |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. So, then, |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Do you consider yourself to be honest? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Yes, I do. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. And that's why you won't ever see such a candidate. (nt) |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
39. isn't there quite a bit of circular logic here? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. It's a matter of degrees, right? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Sure. Where is the line drawn, though, when it |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. 'Policy' seems to be about as vague and open-ended... |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. then Biden's your guy |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
16. Yes, Dennis Kucinich. I saw him in person on Saturday and |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Well, I'll tell you this much.... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Then from God's pen to your eyes. |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. the ONLY one who does that is: |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. We have a second name... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I've got to admit that Biden is mostly a straight shooter, but |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Like which? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Read this from his website. |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. that's not fair |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. It's a fair assessment, but I have learned on this board not |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. so... i win the argument? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I think he will make a wonderful Secretary of Defense and I hope |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. He'd make a better President |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. He's really down on my list. |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. If you think he would make a great sec. of defense... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I'm a way left liberal. Biden, Clinton and Obama are |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. yeah...I guess |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. And #3 appears to be the only honest and realistic one so far. |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
23. Everyone lies. You pick the candidate who will do the best job as President. |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. you mean... |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. People say they want an honest politician |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:46 PM Original message |
Can't access YouTube from work. |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
53. please at least watch before |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. I'm already supporting a candidate. |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. such as...? |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. He's all talk and no action. |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Biden is... |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 06:25 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. I honestly appreciate your support of your candidate |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
25. jesus christ, find me a HUMAN BEING that doesn't lie |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I'm talking about lying to the American people... |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. like I said |
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againes654 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. As a whole |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I'm sorry but... |
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againes654 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. He doesn't think wars are necessary in most cases |
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Think82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. see my above posts... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
31. Kucinich. n/t |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
35. LOL! Good luck. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
45. I'm pretty sure there's no candidate like that running for any position, anywhere. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
52. And the "unvarnished truth" is a matter of subjective judgment |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. No, I don't. That's why I want to hear it from the candidates... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. It's not that hard for someone to be open and truthful about |
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silverback (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
62. Sure, there's an honest man in this race... |
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ooga booga (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
64. I can hear old H.L. Mencken scoffing at the notion |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
67. Whose truth? n/t |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 06:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. True. Truth often depends on the point of view. (nt) |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 06:11 AM Response to Original message |
69. I think there will always be reasons for a President to withhold some info |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
71. And for every one of you... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
75. Nader |
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Steve_in_California (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
80. Biden's your man! |
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mrigirl (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
81. Biden's the right choice!! |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
82. Kucinich. n/t |
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