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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:32 AM Original message |
Why did Hillary Clinton lie about how she was given her first name? |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. i remember hearing this story awhile ago |
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klyon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
190. me too what is with this stuff |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. How do you know Hillary's MOTHER didn't misinform her? From Snopes: |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Yeah, that's a good point |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I immediately thought about the Gore "lies" too. |
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rhiannon55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
189. "*'s favorite children's book was a book that wasn't published until he was in his thirties..." |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #189 |
192. Read the articles: She not only lied about the famous moutain climber but she told another |
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rhiannon55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #192 |
198. Look, I legally changed my name to Rhiannon about 20 years ago, and |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #198 |
199. Lying to the press about a famous person you were erroneously named after and then lying again |
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rhiannon55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #199 |
206. You're right about that, but still... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
200. Al didn't think he remembered it, he was telling a joke and |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #200 |
201. Not even close to two open and disparate LIES to the press corps. n/t |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 05:05 AM Response to Reply #200 |
229. Thanks for posting this information |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
38. People read these articles and associate Clinton with "lies" |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
165. I think you're right. n/t |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. oh fer criminey's sake! |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
86. I'm an Obama supporter and even I think that's over the top. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #86 |
166. Me, too. She's not my first choice but I hate to see the attempts to smear her. |
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Mark Twain Girl (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
169. Yes, no kidding. Not a Hillary supporter, but this kind of thing is cringe-worthy. n/t |
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Big Pappa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
4. Is this what it has come to? |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
5. very typical Hillary spin. No judgement and no trustworthiness. |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I thought you were against "smears" and "slime"? nt |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
171. Only if it's about Hillary then it's a-ok!! |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #171 |
213. only if she's asking for it because of her berserker staff |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #213 |
214. I know, huh? |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Don't you ever get tired of being Mr. Negative Poster? eom |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. As David Geffen said, the Clintons lie with such ease. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. No reasonable person |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
157. A reasonable person |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #157 |
163. No option is ever taken off the table... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #163 |
215. The option in this case is a US first strike with atomic bunker buster bombs |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Typical clinton hater spin |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #15 |
68. So if Edwards or Obama had lied about how they got their name, you'd... |
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draft_mario_cuomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
7. Damn, I am not voting for her under any circumstances at all now |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
9. Dude, she's precognitive... |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I was interested in that. I've never taken the time to read all of the analysis of the election. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Share it widely, no copyright restrictions at all... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
10. Makes me more likely to vote for her. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. The Clintons were investigated down to their underwear. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Ken Starr was many things. "Incompetant" was not among them. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. It wasn't his skill. The game was completely rigged. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
159. As I read it... |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
12. Whadda crocka RNC chickenshit bullshit.. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
13. What did Sir Edmund Hillary do during the war. I think he was well |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
17. Wow! And we care about this why? How silly. |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
19. stupidest criticism EVER |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
24. THIS IS HUH! |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
25. If true, SO FUCKING WHAT? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. The point is...why would you lie to someone about how you got your name? |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I smell bullcrap here |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
52. I thought this was a joke at first |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:48 AM Response to Original message |
27. Well, if she has the raw ambition to confront ex-lovers of her husband face to face, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
168. Why make such a big deal about such a trivial thing? How do you know |
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Kiouni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
28. When you run for president everything is recorded |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Then HRC should not be President because she's too dumb to fact check her first name? |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 06:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. A couple of questions for you: |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 06:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. You already know the answers to these questions. I want a LEADER who didn't |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #32 |
57. We all know that she cannot distance herself from her resume. |
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LBJDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
33. That's fucking bullshit |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 07:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. So, her mother lied to her to make her feel good? What does that say about their dynasty? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
36. Feh |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
37. It's going to be a LONG primary season here at DU |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
39. Well this threads been shot all to hell. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Ok, one of HRC's most staunch supporters has spoken ... |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. When you all can come up with something of substance, we might talk. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Sorry, I thought I was above this "tit for tat" but I learn from the best. Substance? Like this ... |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. well that pretty much explains this thread. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Very mature. It also explains many of the ones you cheerlead in ... you're not above it either. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Backsliding I see. See ya! NT. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I never fail to be amazed at your penchant for one-ups-man-ship. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
44. My mom told me all sorts of things that weren't true |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. That's the ticket. Let's blame "Mom?" |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
49. Pretty judgmental aren't you? Neither you nor the person who wrote the stuff at Snopes |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. It may not be a "Clinton trait" but according to David Geffen, it may be part of their Dynasty. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #50 |
132. Wow, words from David Geffen! I'm impressed .... NOT. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
51. George Bush is named after p-funk pioneer George Clinton |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. "my mom told me that when I was born a herd of winged horses flew over the hospital" |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Wow, you really have some sand in your panties today, huh? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Nice personal attack. You must be great at parties. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Oops! Looks like you might have put them on backwards. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Oh, yeah, "panties" ... Impersonal? Loosen your jock strap and talk issues? |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Actually, I thought you were a fella when I posted that. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Yes, when you can't counter a claim that an adult HRC blatantly lied to the press, then attack. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. You call this a blatant lie? A childhood story that turns out to NOT BE TRUE!?!?!?!?! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. All the bold, enlarged capital letters cannot erase an adult HRC lying - bald faced LYING! |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #73 |
82. Wow, you really must be seeing red with all the lies from George and Dick |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Nice try at changing the subject. You must be feeling guilty for behaving sexist toward me? n/t |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Irony Alert! Irony Alert! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I accept your apology. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. I accept your Napoleonic traits. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
58. My mother told me there was a Santa Claus...and I believed it... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. And then you held a press conference to announce it to the world? n/t |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Kind like when Jimmy Carter announced his support of NAFTA?...nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. We're not talking NAFTA. I don't idolize leaders. Also, I don't trust those who LIE. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Funny... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I honestly don't know of a politician who LIED about something so personal and so |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Read a history book... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Not this and you know it. How about you just admit that she lied about something truly simple. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Grow up... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Well that's rich from a "Everybody loves Hillary, or else!" enforcer. n/t |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Cite your source... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Holy Cow, look at all the threads you folks start to trash anyone who doesn't adore HRC? n/t |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Well that is truly rich... |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. I see you couldn't answer the question. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. OK, I do know when someone comments "Typical" that they're out of ammunition. n/t |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Still waiting for an answer. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #94 |
178. As Requested. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #85 |
173. "You folks" |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #66 |
133. How do you, personally know that Hillary lied about how she got her name? Did she tell you? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #133 |
202. Read the Articles cited above. Unless one's deluded, it's clear that she lied, twice. n/t |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #202 |
207. Oh yes the NY Times has never, ever been wrong or plain lied! I guess you |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Obama hasn't lied! Oh wait yes he did. My bad. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. You're here. Oh good, I've missed you. What's it been, 5 minutes and another thread? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Yes, Is it Barak or BARRY OBAMA? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. OMG! This is big - for the illustrious Tellurian has arrived - protector of all things Hillary! |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #77 |
96. And you are SO in denial! |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Don't forget the court jester thats tried to make this his thread. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Cute, here I go, learning from the Master of court jesters. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #80 |
101. Yeah, you just fell into a hole dug by people running the Barry table in Madison. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Oh, double and triple "Team Hillary" enforcers are after me. Yikes! |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Yes, I see...you're laughing so hard over your pot kettle mistake!! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. I love the "sexist" attacks. Hillary would be so proud. Not only am I wearing panties, but crying? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. See post #94. or is it going to go unanswered? |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #112 |
174. #94 post is gathering cobwebs |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Sexist? Wow... a total disconnect...is it Barak or BARRY.. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
158. Kind of when Bill Clinton SIGNED NAFTA into law... |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
172. Oh dear .. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
75. Who gives a fuck? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #75 |
84. More than just the right wing. We don't want a President to lie about confirmable things. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #84 |
98. Did you find out if BARRY made the name up..or was it his mother? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #75 |
107. I do... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #107 |
144. Do you have any good information on Barack Obama? |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #144 |
175. "Or should I judge Obama by his supporters?" |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
83. Constitutional Crisis, Endless War, Looming Planetary Disaster |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. So it doesn't bother you that someone would tell as SIMPLE lie? |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
89. It was a story. Stories don't have to be true. n/t |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #89 |
102. So the New York Times and Houston Chronicle are lying to us too? n/t |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #102 |
117. If the NYT or the Houston Chronicle had a poll saying Senator Clinton was leading... |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #117 |
129. I'm actually in the "Anybody But Clinton" crowd. |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
99. So, it's a safe bet that this isn't the straw that breaks the camel's back for you |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
100. She's not my favorite BUT I HATE these "gotcha" games!!! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #100 |
106. It's not a "gotcha game" when an ADULT woman would lie about her first name. n/t |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #106 |
176. Barry! Barry! Barry! |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
103. Who. CARES. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
105. utter stupidity |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Ok think about this, if HRC could casually lie about something as simple and inconsequential |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Barak or BARRY? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #111 |
126. Did Barack say he was named after Barry White? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #109 |
114. yeah, I remember that line of reasoning against Gore |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. No it's not, READ the NYT article cited above. She's a L I A R about even the simple things. n/t |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Hey, you're out of ammo..put your gun down, go home and take a nap! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. OMG Tellurian, not only are you a "Hillary Warrior" you want to be boss of me? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #118 |
120. He had ammo? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Wait, I have to catch my breath. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #120 |
127. you have to humor the people who think they're omnipotent.. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #114 |
116. I couldn't agree more! People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones! |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #109 |
177. Barry! |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
121. You know, some candidates have more to fear |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #121 |
123. You're probably right - after all HRC's people admitted it was "a little white lie." |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #123 |
131. Let me guess |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
124. Well, that settles it. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. No one called HRC any deplorable names. We just said that she LIED. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #125 |
134. My point is that the thing she allegedly lied about is totally fucking stupid. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #134 |
138. The NYTs is reliable news source, yes it's f**king stupid to lie about that. n/t |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #138 |
148. Apparently I'm not making myself clear. What I meant was, |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. OK, when I filled out my paperwork for a security clearance, they would forgive ANY lie? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #150 |
154. Yep--and Bill lied about getting a blowjob. Must run in the family. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #154 |
156. Jesus Christ, don't you find people who LIE TO YOU disconcerting?!? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #156 |
160. Apparently not as much as you do. And in fact no, I don't care if Bill lies |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #160 |
162. OK, I hope that I'm wrong: but when people lie about "little things" they may lie about anything. nt |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #125 |
170. If her mother told her a "little white lie" as you admitted, then Hillary wasn't |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
128. Gore lied about his mom's medications! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Really, Gore KNOWINGLY lied about his mother's medications or was it a memory thing? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #128 |
147. Nice...now we try to avoid the issue by going after Gore... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. This is just pathetic. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
135. This place is just getting sad. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Yes, as a grown adult to lie about something so easily debunked is IMO "sad." n/t |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. It is sad. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #137 |
193. Do you have any other proof that HRC lied about this or only the articles above in the OP? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #135 |
179. Yeah, Debunk this LIE! From Obama's High School Yearbook! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #179 |
184. oooooooooooooooooooooooooook |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
136. Will Hil go back to Hillary Rodham Clinton if she's elected? she dropped that quick! |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #136 |
167. She's still using it, actually |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
140. Silly ankle-biter thread-nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #140 |
141. What's hilarious is the number of people who defend the indefensible. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. OK she lied |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Not true. Read the Snopes account? She tried to "cover it up" by claiming |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #143 |
151. What else will she lie about??? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. You know, when a person LIES about something so personal and attempts to cover |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #153 |
161. I agree. You are definitely fiery. |
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DemSoccerMom (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #153 |
187. OK. Wait. Let me get this straight. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. No, but I have worked in the area of counseling and I care when my leaders LIE and then cover-up.nt |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #141 |
145. What's hilarious is the number of people who will look to make |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Read the f**kning news sources that prove HRC lied and covered. It goes to character. n/t |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
152. I don't care |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #152 |
155. Did you read the news sources? n/t |
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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
164. My great-aunt Rhodie told us we were descended from Kickapoo Indians |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #164 |
180. Barry Obama's High School Year Book.. |
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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. Hey, I'm with you. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #164 |
183. And mom's "lies" aren't always even intentional |
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DemSoccerMom (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
182. Well, golly gee, |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
185. why is this even f*cking important??? With all the other stuff going |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. I care if my leaders lie to me ... yes, even if they are lying about sex under oath. |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #186 |
191. I care if my leaders tell me the truth too, but something as |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #191 |
195. That's my point. She lied when it didn't really matter and lied again to cover it up. |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #195 |
203. well healthleader and Karff can say what they will and have their |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #203 |
204. No, the way they "take no prisoners" in their campaigns, probably was just aberrations - white lies. |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #204 |
209. Bill Clinton's sexual affairs where just that HIS, they were none of our |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #186 |
196. Guess you'll have no one to vote for in 2008. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. No, IMO, you can't permit yourself to handle the cold hard truth. n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
194. Maybe that's what her mom told her |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
205. Have you no shame? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #205 |
208. Oh stop with the McCarthy style rhetoric. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #208 |
211. "When there are people who don't feel a need to lie" |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #205 |
212. Have you no brain? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
210. Anything for a possible vote! n/t |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
216. Who really cares ? this seems as if another food fight may occur |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #216 |
217. Yep--another food fight. How ridiculous. Gee whiz, this was such |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
218. Haircut $400 -- B. Hussein Obama -- get the picture? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #218 |
219. LOL, yes AK: The Picture is that - this freakin' thread keeps coming back like "JASON" |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #219 |
220. I suppose it's fodder for those who find it useful. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #220 |
221. I'm glad you're doing well. You know me - tweaking and wondering why ... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #221 |
225. back at ya |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #218 |
222. I'll admit it... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #222 |
223. You make good sense zulchzulu. I hope you enjoy yourself in The Big Easy. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #222 |
224. ahhhhhh |
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choie (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
226. Well, it's official. We have become that which we hate. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #226 |
227. Do you kiss your mother with "that mouth" choie? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #226 |
228. I love your spunk, honey buns! I love you too! |
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