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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:46 AM Original message |
If Obama opposed the war from the start, why did he repeatedly vote to fund the war? |
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Rusty MacHenry (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. He dosen't support the war |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. No. His vote against the funding wouldn't have kept any of the bills from passing. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
97. At NO time did he ever say that |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
2. Because he's not insane |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Was it Einstein who said doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Why would he vote no |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I guess some candidates are above reproach. Sorry if I've bashed him in anyway. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 03:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I'm sure the families did |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. John Q.Ciizen |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. LOL. why is this the constant mantra of the loon |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Real classy restaurant you got there rinsd. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Sorry, my slighting of Lampchop bothered you. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Ah, another day another windmill. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Thanks for your kind words. |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I was hopeful there for a minute |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. What were the other items on the bill? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. This is BS.Another example of anti Dem propaganda! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Deleted message |
lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. They deleted my last message |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. Libbitchwitchy, It isn't that simple and Bush WILL veto this Bill. He has NO choice. |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. I honestly don't think Bush cares too much |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Lizbitchwitchy, you have an interesting point of view but I cannot agree. |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
79. I understand your argument. In my mind anyway, if the dems wanted to truly end this war, they |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
98. Because nobody believed it would be necessary... |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
11. Because he lives in the real world and not la la land. |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
13. Just to piss you off. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yet 3 years later many more are dead and injured than in 1995, when he cast his first vote to fund |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. 1995? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I think it is more of an effort |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Yes W, asked for money to provide for the troops and Obama complied. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. it is unfortunate you view it that way |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Your rationalization of him as an anti-war candidate is related to your |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. hero worship? really? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. OoH, now I'm scared. Hero worship is a dangerous thing., obviously. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
77. just between you and me |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #77 |
96. If Gore gets in he's got my vote! n/t |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. the brilliance of a Gore candidacy |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Yes, and beyond. |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 02:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
82. We are all on the same side here |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. You're trivializing Obama's appeal by attributing his success to his good looks & charisma |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Great post for lots of reasons. |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Good point, I can't help but wonder |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. it is a double-edge sword indeed |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 02:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
83. The point is |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:43 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. too simplistic an analysis/solution |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. If funding the war is opposing it in your mind then , hey, it takes all kinds. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. if I might interject |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. No, Dennis is not suggest that. Read HR 1234. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. One could take Kucinich's personal political courage a bit more seriously if he |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. wowie wow wow |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Hey, a good looking candidate is always a plus. Lot of people vote based |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
78. I respect your work for the Democratic Party. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
81. oh please.... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Many state legislatures have passed or attempted to pass resolutions, |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 02:43 AM Response to Reply #33 |
84. There most certainly is a conflict of interest |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I disagree. |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Stand up to WHAT in 1995? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Ohh, ouch! Obama voted to fund the war since he took office in Jan 1995. |
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ripple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Lieberman was never Obama's mentor |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #70 |
95. Please see post #64. Thanks |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
64. Double ouch. 2005. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
16. This kind of reasoning gets into the realm of goofy. You can be opposed |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. reasoning of the goofy |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Oh, Lordy, let's limit this to the discussion at hand. Obama was right |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. If you say so |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Nice 'tude |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. truth has a way |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. It's not always truth that gets people kicked off boards |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Well first I would stop calling your opinion the truth. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. george asked for money to support the troops. Obama complied with the |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
34. Because he is a responsible legiislator...not a grandstander... |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Exactly. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Yeah, just give george the money and try to forget about the people dying. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. This is laughable. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Ok, I get it. It's bush's fault that Obama keeps voting to fund the war. Boy that |
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lizbitchwitchy (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 02:49 AM Response to Reply #69 |
85. I haven't seen any legislation |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 09:22 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Here's some legislation (these are only Obama as sponsor, not co-sponsor): |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Now that's only if you consider voting funds to kill around 1,000000 Iraqis as being responsible. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Dennis Kucinich or Jim Webb...who to trust...hmmmm... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Hey, I have a "spiritual connection" to Jim Webb. Late on election night I was |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I live in Virginia... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Good for you! We kicked some Burns and Allen ass, didn't we? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
52. Maybe because he's ALWAYS been pro-choice... |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Like Obama said, he doesn't trust playing chicken with the Administration on funding. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Ah, the truth hurts. He's a serial voter to fund the war. Ask him. Google |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. What bullshit. Can we stop spreading lies? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Ok, you don't have to hold it against him, I don't care, but it's not a lie that |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Listen...it's not just a black and white binary bumpersticker reality |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
61. Don't you already have a thread on this? |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. Kucinich supporters see a threat in Obama for the anti-war vote. |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. How many Candidates that you dislike.. have you sent money to? |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
66. He does not support the War |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
67. Abraham Lincoln opposed America's landrobbing war with Mexico |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #67 |
99. ...and he SAID so publicly. Out loud! |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
76. John, as an avid Obama fan, I hate to tell you this, but you have a point |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. The truth is the truth and you just spoke it. It is what it is folks. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. He is different |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
94. Thanks for your candor and honesty. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. What bologna. Kucinich the only consistent voice against the war, my ass. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
88. I'll take a stab at this |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Since you're a Clinton supporter you might want to consider this |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. I agree with you points 100% - but Obama is a politician |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
103. Russ Fiengold... |
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