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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:24 PM Original message |
I'm gonna say it and you're not gonna like it: Impeachment=Waste of Time |
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Cary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. The impeachment of Clinton straight across party lines was a bad. . . |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The crazy thing is, this should be justified |
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Cary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. You are preaching to the choir on that one. |
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RedstDem (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. He Needs To Be Caught Giving One ! |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. There's a few other things I can think of as well. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. They'd replace him with Dick Cheney |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. That, or I wonder if they could get away with... |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Doesn't matter. His time is short anyway. And for all we know, |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Sorry when our children are dying in Iraq, |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
46. "revenge on Bush" - wow, how revealing! |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Oh we can hold him accountable |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Make progress by letting criminals off the hook? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. But then, you don't see it as revenge, while LynneSin does. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
99. Thanks. Actually, I'll be frank here. There IS a tiny bit of revenge |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. I have to agree, especially about the priorities. |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. There are many more good reasons |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
112. "Let them get away with it" isn't an appropriate phrase. |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. I am sorry |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
7. My apologies, but I'm NOT giving up on it. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. And what message did we learn from the last impeachment |
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Cary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Agreed. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. The people DID ignore it in droves. Why? Because it was about |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Exactly-Very well said!!! |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
35. Yeah, on this issue Im like |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't care how, but BushCo needs to be punished before they leave office |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. At this point the major damage is done. All we can hope to do |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
49. Oh, I don't know, I think he can do far worse. |
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Redbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
12. I respectfully disagree. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Yes - hearings should be held and you know they will |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
51. "Agenda", "revenge" - nice job echoing the rightwingers, Lynne. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
14. If we get a democratic majority & don't impeach Bush, I'll be the most |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Good, then my thread has served a purpose |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Sorry, but you need to start preparing for YOUR disappointment, Lynne |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. There is no way they would go that route. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
54. Punishing those who break the law is a fool's errand? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
53. I agree with everything except the last sentence. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. I agree. History will not treat "President Simple" kindly. |
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BrewAz (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. I could not disagree more.... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Fixes how? |
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BrewAz (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Should have said... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
55. How about "fixes the perception criminals can get away with murder"? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'd like to add this on the my original post |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. The only way he won't..... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
56. If I may ask - what good does it to hold hearings without penalties? |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
24. Not just a waste of time; suicidal |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. So - hold criminals accountable for crimes, lose voters... |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
102. So you DON'T put it that way. Make sure it's always spoken about, |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
29. you are not gonna get any of those things |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
58. Very good (and dare I say, smart!) points. |
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JAYJDF (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
31. I don't see impeachment as a waste of time. The little sht needs |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. You aint just a kiddin. This isn't some "Boys will be boys" thing |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
33. It's is their JOB to impeach him if he has committed crimes. It's not |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. If? |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
34. AGREED!! The best way to neutralize bushco is to win back........ |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
36. NO. The * Co Criminals must be held responsible and pay for their crimes. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. No, that's just revenge. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
37. I understand what you're saying ... but I *still* favor impeachment |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
61. We've seen what happens when we DON'T punish criminals. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
104. Hear, hear! Or here, here! However you spell it. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
39. I completely agree |
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JAYJDF (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
40. Any way all members of Congress could be held accountable as |
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theanarch (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
41. of course impeachment proceedings... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
63. Excellent post. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
105. Another excellent post. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. Agreed. (And its 2/3 vote -- a number we cannot reach in 2006) |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
43. I agree...but the most important reason... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
45. Yeah, I mean, why punish criminals for their crimes? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. yeah, I'm angry at this administration. I'm furious at them |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. I don't think calling for punishment of proven crimes is "for show". |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. It is when there is no chance of acheiving that result |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:32 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. I still disagree. It sends the message that WE'RE for justice. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. you believe the case has been made, but of course it hasn't |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. The case that they have broken our, and international, laws... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
64. How is slapping a man on the hand considered punishment |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Uh, who says it's a slap on the hand? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. And where are we going to get the 17 needed republican senators |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. If we impeach Bush, tell me where we get the 17 republican senators? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. So we shouldn't even try to hold criminals accountable? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. can I get a link for that revolution-era poll you cite? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. impeachment is a poor way to establish criminality |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. As I said, if you choose not to work on removing criminals from power... |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
124. You know there are other ways to do that |
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Wisconsin Larry (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #70 |
83. It is 2/3 of those voting to convict so it's 67 if all 100 members |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. There IS nothing. NOTHING. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
48. I respectfully disagree. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
68. Right on. |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
85. Sounds like something the republicans would do..hold no one accountable. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. HELL YES! |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. bull -- impeachment isn't about justice, its about politics |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:47 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. no, it's about accountability. n/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. and what accountability is achieved by a failed impeachment effort? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. I don't subscribe to the foregone conclusion you have that it will fail |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. And you have to remember one thing: |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:23 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. I wish I was a young'un! |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #96 |
119. Each of those counts are criminal and hold penalities let alone |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-26-06 01:04 AM Response to Reply #85 |
128. trying to save our republic is a waste of time? . . . I think not . . n/t |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
50. George W. Bush is a traitor |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
72. Thanks Lynne, I so agree with you ! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Uh, but these criminals don't respect checks-and-balances. |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #75 |
100. Let's take back Congress first..... |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #75 |
108. True, especially if he keeps falling back on his "signing statements." |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. Start with |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #82 |
101. I understand and agree, but...... |
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ABaker (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
76. You're wrong. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
77. Just TALKING about it helps us. Undermines Dubya** even further. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:09 PM Response to Reply #77 |
111. That's absolutely true. Especially when WE aren't the only ones |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
81. Not exactly raking in the Greatest Page nominations with this one, huh? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Yeah, it's right up there with her defense of the bankruptcy bill... |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
109. Hey, I nominated it. |
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Debs (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
87. I disagree because |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. what message would that be? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. You seem to be forgetting they will claim whatever helps them. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. you really don't make any sense |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
97. It's arguably the right thing to do, but it's simply not practical |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. not right out of the box |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #103 |
120. I certainly hope you're right |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. as much as we know now, |
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Karenca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
106. I WILL PERSONALLY GIVE B*SH A BLOWJOB |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
110. You're right. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
114. As much as I'd like to see it, I have to agree |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
116. Impeachment: Saving the Republic is NOT a waste of time! |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
117. impeachment "crap"? hmmm. I wonder why you doth protest so much. |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
118. Yes, impeachment takes too long - we should demand his resignation |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
122. the quest for justice a waste of time? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-25-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. Maybe I would prefer the quest of ending a war first |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-26-06 01:42 AM Response to Reply #125 |
129. Your cow bells are no longer listen to or needed...the joke is over |
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126. Sure - let's just forget about making real changes |
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130. The most important thing to consider when discussing impeachment... |
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