The word 'moderate' is no longer meaningful
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:23 AM
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The word 'moderate' is no longer meaningful |
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Since the political center of gravity is far and away to the right, I suggest abandoning the use of this word as it is quite misleading. How about the following replacements?
semi-fascists fascist-enablers anti-liberals
Each of these terms accurately describes the left bashing tendencies of so-called 'moderates' while acknowledging the fact that they are not at the extreme right of the political spectrum.
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:29 AM
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Since the political center of gravity is far and away to the right
From YOUR lofty position on the left
I suggest abandoning the use of this word as it is quite misleading. How about the following replacements?
semi-fascists fascist-enablers anti-liberals
Or, how 'bout "the big meanies who won't let me have my way?"
Each of these terms accurately describes the left bashing tendencies of so-called 'moderates' while acknowledging the fact that they are not at the extreme right of the political spectrum.
Oh, the irony!
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:30 AM
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2. He never claimed to be a moderate. n/t |
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:51 AM
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6. never claimed he claimed to be a moderate |
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Wed Jun-28-06 06:04 AM
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16. Then why are you attacking his attack on moderates? n/t |
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:33 AM
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but you're not really saying anything. :evilgrin:
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:52 AM
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7. see, there is the irony |
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The OP can call moderates semi-fascists, fascist-enablers, and anti-liberals, but even a mild rebuttal becomes "attacking alot."
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ixion
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Wed Jun-28-06 06:06 AM
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I was just razzin' yeah.
You mocked the poster without offering any kind of rebuttal, which is well deserving of a rebuttal in and of itself, no?
It has nothing to do with your politics. :hi:
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:47 AM
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semi-fascist!
:hi: :evilgrin:
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:55 AM
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Howdy...ummm... semi-commie? Semi-radical Islamic enabler?
Not that I really believe these things of you, but hell, I might as well "attack" with controversy.
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Wed Jun-28-06 06:01 AM
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12. Believe me, I'd be glad to be called all that (and more) |
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if I could have even 20 genuine leftists occupying positions of power, fighting for the rights of the working class and the poor instead of pursuing empire, profits and oil.
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Wed Jun-28-06 06:02 AM
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15. so why aren't there "20 genuine leftists occupying positions of power?" |
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:46 AM
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4. Today's bleeding heart liberal........... |
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is the equivalent of a 50's Eisenhower Republican. The balance has truly gone too far to the right. The Republicans are very good at scaring Americans, there always has to be a bogey-man around the corner for them to succeed.
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:55 AM
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9. Eisenhower's warnings about the Military - Industrial Complex |
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would get him labled an out and out communist in todays climate.
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Wed Jun-28-06 06:01 AM
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:56 AM
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10. having a "a bogey-man" is human nature |
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Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 05:56 AM by wyldwolf
The left's bogey-men are moderates and/or DLC.
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Wed Jun-28-06 06:06 AM
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It's not just votes and elections I'm talking about, but the fact that on so many fundamental, social/economic/political/moral questions today's 'moderates' are diametrically opposed to the left.
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Wed Jun-28-06 06:07 AM
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20. everyone can justify or explain away their bogeyman |
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Wed Jun-28-06 05:58 AM
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11. there are no longer any moderates. |
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that is a dead political stand.
at the end of the day -- a moderate leaves in place -- supports -- the corporate branch of government.
and that's the heart of their extreme position.
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Wed Jun-28-06 06:02 AM
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...ignorance and manipulation.
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Wed Jun-28-06 06:06 AM
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17. the moderates themselves aren't so ignorant. |
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like much of american society there is an extraordinary portion of the population that suffers from a willful ignorance -- and then there are those moderates who are aware how things have shifted -- and and support it. and yes that is cynical and manipulative.
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Wed Jun-28-06 08:41 AM
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25. I don't know how to interpret that. |
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"like much of american society there is an extraordinary portion of the population that suffers from a willful ignorance"
With ya.
"and then there are those moderates who are aware how things have shifted -- and and support it. and yes that is cynical and manipulative."
Who are you talking about?
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Wed Jun-28-06 08:54 AM
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28. i consider folk like the clintons to be the kind of |
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''moderates'' who manipulate the current political and corporate landscape to their advantage and to bolster the power of certain corporate entities against that of the people.
i.e. cynical.
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Wed Jun-28-06 11:16 AM
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Wed Jun-28-06 07:22 AM
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Messing with the term "moderate" is not manipulation?
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Wed Jun-28-06 07:21 AM
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22. For messing with semantics. |
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See you in November.
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Wed Jun-28-06 08:55 AM
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Wed Jun-28-06 07:20 AM
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21. For dividing so as to show off. |
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See you in November.
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Wed Jun-28-06 07:29 AM
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24. anxious for war/racist toward Muslims and Arabs = moderate |
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cautious about war/tolerant/wants to reduce tension with Arab/Muslim world = far left
It's really very simple to understand
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Wed Jun-28-06 08:48 AM
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26. Now you went and fired up the tired half dozen dlcentrists on DU. |
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Listen to the bleating, lol.
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Wed Jun-28-06 08:52 AM
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27. Maybe we could go with Johnny Hart's "Lethargy" and "Apathy" parties ... |
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"Who are you going to vote for this year -- the Lethargy party or the Apathy party ?"
"Oh, I don't know ... there's really not a lot of difference between them anymore."
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Wed Jun-28-06 11:43 AM
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This is deliberately disruptive flame-bait.
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