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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 06:22 AM
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Election Day 2006: US military is out of Iraq. Democrat's BEWARE!
Edited on Tue Nov-22-05 06:32 AM by The Judged
1). If you listen carefully to Rep. Murtha, you will hear him say that he has no doubt that the US Military will be out of Iraq by Election Day 2006.

2). He also is not willing to concede that the W Administration deliberately manipulated intelligence in order to convince the Congress and the American Public to support the Iraq War.

You must watch Murtha's videos in order to see him make these statements, or you can read transcripts of those interviews and official statements in order to see the actual wording of Murtha's comments on these matters.

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Questions for the Democratic Party:

1). With the W Administration making a U-turn and getting out of Iraq before Election Day 2006, how will the Democratic Party benefit from its anti-war platform in such a persuasive way as to offset any potential LieBold irregularities in the Republican Party's favor in the national elections?

2). If the Democratic Party accusations that the W Administration deliberately manipulated the pre-Iraq War intelligence do not get driven home by October 2006 and are not substantially demonstrated in a legally incontrovertible and publicly indisputable fashion by then, then how can the Democratic Party offset any potential LieBold irregularities in the Republican Party's favor in the national elections?

3). With the Democratic Party's 2005 election victories, do you believe there is a definite false sense of security spreading nationally amongst Democrats, independents, and the general public?

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My personal opinions:

I believe that, in fact, the Neo-Cons have a plan. They are not stupid. They see the writing on the wall. They have a substantial pool of volunteers willing to take office, even if by election theft, and to do their bidding in the federal, state, and local governments throughout these United States of America.

It is my opinion that Americans are in store to realize their worst fears on Election Day 2006: The Neo-Cons and their LieBold and MES&S machines will deliver a crushing a final blow to Democracy.

There is only one way to save our Democracy: PROTECT THE VOTE!

Aside from the Democratic Party and all Patriotic Americans continuing to chase down every lead on corruption, prosecuting all crimes against this nation, offering the American Public a true plan for America, and informing all Americans on how to preserve their Democracy, the Democratic Party MUST NOT STRAY FROM THE FACT THAT ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL!

The Democratic Party must put in place Election Day 2006 safeguards that cannot be defeated AT THE MOST BASIC AND LOCAL ROOTS OF THE VOTE.

The Democratic Party must motivate the populace to get out and vote.

The Democratic Party must target enough Republican Districts that need Democratic Party voters added, in order to move them in and to flip the vote to Democratic candidates! YES, I SAID MOVE THEM IN! This is the only way to defeat the Republican redistricting that has and continues to take place. If you think that this is expensive, then add up the cost of a lost democracy. Which costs more?

The Democratic Party must make sure that their political base has:

1). Municipal proof of their identity, to thwart continuing Republican efforts to deny Americans their rights to vote.

2). State government proof of their CORRECT AND LEGALLY VALID VOTER REGISTRATIONS.

3). Protection from bait and switch or last minute modifications to procedures that are able to change the voting systems or procedures and cause confusion for voters.

4). A VERIFIABLE VOTE!

THE PROCEDURES AND PRACTICES AND RULES FOR THE ELECTION DAY 2006 VOTE MUST BE LOCKED IN ON OR ABOUT ONE MONTH BEFORE ELECTION DAY 2006.

To allow for any sudden changes is to allow for the carpet to be pulled from underneath our Democracy. The vote will not go as planned if the Republicans can implement any changes to any of the rules, practices, procedures, laws, interpretations thereof, or any other elements of the vote during the final 30 day period leading up to Election Day.

The Democratic Party must identify and eradicate all issues that could potentially cause voter confusion, voter disqualification, voter denial of a quick and easy placement of their vote, or any other anti-voter effects on the vote.

THIS EFFORT MUST START NOW! IT MUST RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH ALL OTHER EFFORTS! THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ERROR! NOTHING CAN BE TAKEN FOR GRANTED! YOU CANNOT TRUST THAT THINGS WILL JUST WORK OUT, ESPECIALLY USING THE LOGIC THAT EVERYONE NOW REALIZES WHAT IS WRONG AND THAT AS A COHESIVE GROUP THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY PREVENT THE DEATH OF OUR DEMOCRACY.

The Neo-COns now will now adapt and wade out this period, until voter apathy resurfaces, but they will not relent. Even if they are mostly in jail, they will find others who are free and who are willing to do ANYTHING to complete their mission. They have money and there will always be greedy people to do their bidding. Unfortunately, there will always be ignorant people who unwittingly facilitate the Neo-Con's plots.

YOU WILL SEE MANY SURPRISES between now and Election Day 2006, and these surprises will convince you that your Democracy has been saved, but you will be fooled on Election Day 2006 if you do not do your duty. You have been warned!

It is not enough for everyone to know the truth. NOW EVERYONE MUST BE PREPARED TO DEMONSTRATE THE TRUTH IN THEIR ACTIONS.

For too long, each of the Republican and Democratic Parties have relied on voter apathy to slide into power and to carry out their agendas.

The Democratic Party cannot afford to do this now, because this time Democracy itself is on the line. FAILURE NOW will be cause for our regression into slavery, regardless of race, ethnicity, or any other human characteristic. This time, escape from slavery will not be so easy.

With the 2006 elections the Republicans will be poised to pick-up a SUPER-MAJORITY in Congress.

If they succeed, our Democracy will surely fail.

TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE!

PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR DEMOCRACY TO THOSE WHO WOULD END IT!

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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 06:41 AM
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1. Can the Democratic Party really get all of that done in 11 months?
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 01:38 AM
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7. Yes!
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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 02:36 AM
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12. Are you sure?
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 06:56 AM
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2. You don't need a conspiracy theory to see that the GOP's running scared.
They do not want to be stuck in Iraq on election day.

I personally think that if Smirk and Sneer don't go along with the congressional Republicans save your asses move, one or both of them will be forced to step down ala Nixon.

Democrats need to get ahead of the curve and get behind a responsible exit strategy before the Republicans supply one to them and take credit for it.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 01:49 AM
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8. "Exit Strategy" already hijacked by the Republicans!
Remember, the Republicans just need to stay in the game leading up to Election Day 2006.

Any strange election results can then be explained away as resulting from something other than a hijacked vote, for example "gay Marriage."

From now until Election Day, you might see a surprisingly more moderate Republican Party that caters more to what is left of middle America than the extremist agenda recently made obvious by them.

They know that on Election Day, they will attain a Super Majority and total control as they have sought for decades.

Once their rubber stamp Congressmen are sworn in, the Democracy will fall.

It is already on one knee and looking very defeated.

If the American People can protect their vote in 2006, just maybe Democracy in this country MIGHT still be able to survive long enough to expand the US Constitution to protect against future anti-Constitutional political assaults - just maybe!
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 01:17 PM
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19. SPREAD THE WORD: THEY ONLY WANT OUR TROOPS OUT
OF IRAQ SO THEY CAN USE THEM TO INVADE IRAN!!

That's the meme--and IMO, it's the truth. The * administration has been rattling sabers about Iran for MONTHS.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 04:59 AM
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14. So true.
Murtha stepped up and called it, and the Republican Congress made fun of him, on tee-vee, for the world to see. Now the giant head (O'Reilly) is calling for the same damn thing. I think Hillary ought to STFU if she can't support Murtha. She probably thinks she's shoring up her run for the presidency by cementing her image as a hawk, but she's a day late and a dollar short. It's time and Murtha set the ball rolling. I think the Repubs will be knee-deep in controversy next year. All Dems have to do is remind the public that they fought the pull-out every step of the way.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:42 AM
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63. I think what they'll do
is they'll do like last year and say "don't vote for us you'll get attacked again" or they'll have a "Mission Accomplished part two" late summer or so.
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:04 AM
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3. The only solution
Prove they lied, intentionally lied for their PNAC agenda. Also (just a hope), if Condi's indicted, along with Hadley, forcing the two plus Cheney to resign - we won. I'm still rooting for Fitz to kick these assholes out of Washington.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 02:01 AM
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9. Even this is not enough! It is only a piece of the puzzle!
In 2004, political sentiment nationally was very obviously more pro-Kerry than Bush.

The religious right efforts were very low key, and therefore, the conventional wisdom about the federal election polls and results was turned on its head.

Nothing can be left to chance this time.

Every aspect of our lives can be changed by the election of a Republican Congressional Super-Majority on Election Day 2006.

The beginning of the end has already come to pass.

The end is approaching.

T minus 349 days until the known end of the US Democracy.

On Tuesday, November 07, 2006 and Wednesday, November 08, 2006 election results will be made available to the American People.

Despite the apparent error in the results, those results will not be able to be overturned.

The American Public will have wasted its opportunity to prevent the end of their Democracy.

Worst of all, it will be our own fault as Americans.
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MrTriumph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:09 AM
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4. What anti-war platform?
1). With the W Administration making a U-turn and getting out of Iraq before Election Day 2006, how will the Democratic Party benefit from its anti-war platform in such a persuasive way as to offset any potential LieBold irregularities in the Republican Party's favor in the national elections?

Although I would like to agree with the premise of the question, please note that some of our party leaders in the past (DG & TD come to mind) have been way too eager to enable Bush to go about his war-making.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 02:10 AM
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10. Anti-war platform: Democrats misled by W Administration's case for war.
Therefore, in retrospect, the Democrats who have voted to authorize W to conduct the Iraq War, if specific conditions were met, are able to credibly claim that they were deceived by W and his Administration's intelligence cabal, which acted outside the scope of the US Constitution.

Applying this definition of the anti-war platform to my question may be helpful to you in deciding an answer.
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MrTriumph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:57 AM
Response to Reply #10
15. Yes, but since millions of us could see through Bush's lies, why
couldn't others?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:20 AM
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5. Great post.
I agree on all suggestions...and the lies, failures and treason need to be driven home.
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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 04:17 AM
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13. Really? It doesn't seem to generate any interest. You call that great?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:49 AM
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41. Really? 40 replies so far. It seems your judgement is less than accurate.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 09:54 AM by Al-CIAda
In your haste to issue a condemnation of my comment, you fail logic in linking quality (great post) with quantity (volume reply/interest). In any event, it seems you have exposed yourself as half-baked on both the content and conclusion of your post. Why your concern and need to comment on what I might call a post is curious indeed.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:45 PM
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6. Are you suggesting the Republicans will "Flip Flop" on Bush*'s War and not
"Stay the Course". Just two sound bites which just may resonate.....
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 02:18 AM
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11. Absolutely, because they need to lull the American people back to sleep.
"It's the war stupid!"

No Iraq War = calm and self righteous Americans who are content with the results of their dissent.

A perfect explanation for low "dissenter" turnout at the polls on Election Day 2006.

With only a few carefully crafted moves toward the center in American Politics, the Republican Neo-Con enablers can keep the Election Day 2006 polls close enough to create a doubt in the American Public's collective mind that the vote was hijacked.

Once these newly elected Republican Neo-Con enablers are sworn into office, Democracy will lose the last of its defenses and be defeated.

You and I will become slaves belonging to the Neo-Cons.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 01:21 PM
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22. Iran... Syria...Iran... Syria... Iran... Syria... Iran.....Saudi Arabia!
That's what they want our troops out of Iraq for--to invade those places. Yes, there's even been a mention or two of invading Saudi Arabia!

It's not just "No more Iraq war", it's NO MORE WAR!!

Republicans = War Party.
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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 12:57 PM
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16. I guess this isn't deemed a priority!
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 01:06 PM
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17. The repukes might pull out of Iraq, then after the election promptly
cause our troops to invade Iran.

Does ANYBODY trust the repukes anymore??

I wouldn't vote for ANY of them if they were running against Osama Bin Laden. Seriously!
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 01:09 PM
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18. Good post, but, pardon me, the neocons ARE stupid!
They are stupid, and they are filled with hubris.

They are about an inch away from being tarred and feathered. Oh, joyful day!

Keep up the pressure. Point out that they WANT ENDLESS WAR. And point out that just b/c they might end the Iraq war, doesn't mean that they won't promptly start ANOTHER, WORSE, WAR.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 01:19 PM
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20. "OUT OF IRAQ... INTO IRAN!"
That's what we should be saying constantly, because that's what the repukes are really up to.

"If you want endless war, vote republican." If you want the Department of Defense to BE a department of DEFENSE, and not a Department of Offense, or a "War Department", vote democratic!
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 01:19 PM
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21. I think we would be better off if our agenda consisted of something
other than: "hey, the repugs are screwed up!"
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 01:21 PM
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23. Mine does. What the fuck are YOU talking about?
Edited on Wed Nov-23-05 01:23 PM by ClassWarrior
Smells like Radical RW talking points to me.

NGU.


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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 09:28 PM
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26. Let's hear it.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. How about "PEACE"?
Peace. Simple, brief, and to the point.

And you can add prosperity. What American, of any socio-economic level, would not be more prosperous if the oil companies weren't raping the country? (Okay... the oil execs. Well, they don't count because they're stateless capitalist scum--hence, they are not real Americans.)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 06:00 PM
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25. What theft? W was just too strong for us - Kerry came in second!
fair & square - and we should be proud of him and hope he'll do better next time. :sarcasm:
As per half of the threads on this site.
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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 02:32 AM
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27. Time is running out.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 03:19 AM
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28. I wish I had come across this in time to recommend it. Good manifesto.
You are so right on elections as the fundamental issue, I can't add a thing.

Here is the good news with regard to Iraq. First, our "early" departure will be seen as a retreat. The Republicans will pull out their oldie but goodie, "who lost China." That bid will quickly be trumped by the horror of seeing Iraq either" a) descend into a bloody civil war or b) turn into a seething cauldron of Muslim fundamentalism. The later is the most likely although both could occur concurrently.

Imagine this: We sacrificed all the lives and money to make Iraq safe for Muslim fundamentalists.

Just the thought of that inevitability makes be ill. It will be a sight to see and one that appalls everyone.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 03:30 AM
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29. T minus 348 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Another day lost. Are we too busy to care for our Democracy?
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:32 AM
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30. T minus 347 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Did anything happen yesterday to protect the integrity of the vote in 2006?
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 09:04 AM
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31. We've had good results with the 05 elections.
Do you think the same system will fail us next year?
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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 04:08 PM
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32. That is a loaded question.
1). Voters will continue to be denied on the basis of them not having municipal ID that evidences their identity and valid voter registration.

Lack of incontrovertible ID and registration to vote equates to a vote that won't be allowed by Republicans.

2). Voters will continue to face political discrimination in allocation of voting resources: polling stations, polling machines, properly trained staff.

Long lines for Democrats, short lines for Republicans.

3). Voters will continue to be accosted by partisan challengers who will continue to make up rules as they go along and take advantage of the ignorance that average Americans have in regard to their states voting regulations.

Democrat leaning voters will be disproportionately denied their right to vote.

4). Paper ballots will continue to be denied to voters who are eligible for them and inadequately safeguarded by election officials when these ballots are allowed to be cast by voters.

Democrats will again see disproportionate voting failures with paper ballots.

and, finally

5). Diebold, ES&S, and other electronic voting machines will continue to alter voters' intended votes until those votes are cast for Republican candidates and will continue to be manipulated to flip votes on key candidates or propositions until artificial results are tabulated to award elections to Republican candidates.

Issues #1 thorough #4 in this post are able to be addressed by Activists who devote the remaining time between now and Election Day 2006 by the following #'s I to VI, and issue #5 is able to be addressed by the following item #VII:

I). Registering and verifying that all eligible voters are correctly registered, even if it means re-registering them all over again just to be sure to defeat the Republican practice of deleting voters who haven't voted in recent election. Get receipts and names and dates for evidence of voter eligibility, and compel the state to acknowledge to a political party that all of its members are correctly, legally, and currently registered to vote on Election Day 2006 by comparing party member lists in advance.

II). Making sure that all eligible voters have two legally acceptable, per the documented advice of the lead Election official of each state, and valid (CURRENT) forms of ID to identify themselves to election officials in order to defeat the past practice of denying voters their right to vote on the basis of the voter not being able to present incontrovertible ID, on Election Day 2006.

III). Training and obtaining state authorization for, protocols for, and certification of volunteer "vote integrity specialists" for every polling station, and as a direct percentage of the polling machines to be allocated, in order to defeat the practices of and who are able to preserve documentary evidence of incidents where corrupt partisan challengers and/or corrupt election officials mislead, misdirect, lie to, mistreat, and deny eligible voters of their various rights subsequent to, while, and after exercising their right to vote.


IV). Working with state officials to ensure and verify a freeze on last minute changes to voting policies, rules, and regulations, that in themselves have become a political tool for disrupting voters rights and denying voters their votes.

V). Working with state officials to ensure and verify advance notice of non-partisan resource deployments, technical matters relating to electronic voting machines (including public education workshops), a guarantee of sufficient official voting supplies based on census data (including translation materials, copies of charts detailing the rights of every elligible voter, registration materials, and paper ballots), and the integrity of the complete voting process from individual and group decisions and/or actions and/or practices that have been previously been demonstrated to call into question the sanctity of the election process, including the absentee ballot process and vote.

VI). Working with state officials to ensure and verify prior to Election Day 2006 that the layout of voters choices on all voting supplies is totally consistent from polling location to polling location, in order to prevent errors resulting from local irregularities in the layout of the voting supplies (whether on voting guides, electronic or mechanical voting machines, paper ballots, and/or vote tabulators are completely consistent statewide)

VII. Working with state officials to set ground rules, in advance of Election Day 2006, that establish without exception or challenge during the election process, the methods to protect the actual votes:

a). From hacking:

i). No incoming telephone access or transmissions to voting machines and/or tabulators, or any other election related devices that could be determinant in the election process.

ii). No incoming telephone, Nextel, e-mail, or any other communications to elections officials OTHER THAN OFFICIAL COMMUNICATIONS that shall be documented and preserved in a clear and accountable record of such communications that demonstrates who, where, why, how and when that official communications took place.

iii). No outgoing telephone calls or transmissions from voting machines, officials, or tabulators without checks and balances and documentation as to who, where, why , how, and when.

b). From partisan handling: No handling of actual votes, voting equipment, or vote tabulating equipment without two representatives from each major political party being present to witness, document, and preserve any incidents involving the Elections officials or the actions of those Elections officials or any other persons.

i). NO PERSON SHALL HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO REPAIR ANY VOTING MACHINE OR TABULATOR unless they are sworn to oath by and charged to do so by the state with clear and documentary evidence of such authority clearly displayed at all times and documented in election records of the officials in charge of that particular polling location indicating the who, where, why , how, and when of such actions. Any repairs must be observed by two representatives from each political party and in the presence of the election official in charge of the polling station.

ii). A LIST OF APPROVED TECHNICIANS DETAILING THE LIMITS AND SCOPE OF THEIR AUTHORIZED ACCESS TO AND LOCALITY OF THEIR AUTHORITY TO REPAIR voting machines or tabulators or other devices that can in any way have impact on the election process, including telephone and fax lines and equipment.

c). A clear and partisan-free chain of command for control over all voting ballots, machines, and vote tabulators from prior to the vote in a documented FREE FROM DEFECT state until AFTER ALL TABULATIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND VERIFIED. In other words, the chain of command must be accountable, demonstrable, verifiable, and in place right up until the votes are certified by the state.

Well, I believe this is a good framework to start from in creating optimal Election Day conditions.

Fell free to add or critique these specific plans of action.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:48 AM
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51. You've got the handle on the problems with voting integrity--SOLUTIONS
or some of your thoughts on how to keep or re-stablish verifiable voting would be welcomed.

NoFederales
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 04:49 PM
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33. So kids, if that happens....
..what should the Democratic talking points be ? Huh?

I think we could clobber them with " the last man to die for a mistake" theme by updating it to " the last man to die for a lie".

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=Testimony



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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 05:37 PM
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34. KICK
So what are you going to do about this my fellow DUer's?

We need the congress back.

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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 04:13 AM
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35. T minus 346 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
What was accomplished yesterday?

I see some excellent ideas, but will anyone act on them?

Be reminded that the clock is always ticking.

While everything is on the line, try to enjoy your holiday season AND carry out your duties.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 06:58 AM
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36. All US Troops out by Nov. '06?
I don't think so. Maybe 60K will be pulled out but 100K will remain on those 14 bases that are being built by Haliburton. They will keep a low profile and gaurd what the invasion was about.


"The terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". George W. Bush (Nov. 2005)

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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:12 PM
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38. Two weeks ago it was unpatriotic to even speak of a pull-out.
There will be a near 100% pull-out prior to Election Day 2006, IMO.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:34 AM
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37. T minus 345 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:13 PM
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39. Are you willing to leave everything to chance? To risk it all?
Please, don't let our Democracy die.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:52 AM
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40. T minus 344 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 04:52 AM by The Judged
Yes, I have seen a difference today!

Today, our recent collective effort has sprung slightly toward its essential metamorphosis into an unstoppable and popular national movement to defend our Democracy from those who would hijack it, redefine it to be the opposite of its intended meaning, and fraudulently perpetuate it as an abomination against all Americans and the world alike.

Modern day pirates, commonly known to be Neo-cons, appear to be on the verge on Election Day 2006 of having their Congressional, Judicial, and Executive Branch enablers obtain seemingly valid, “elected” authority to impose upon the American People contemporary circumstances inhumanly similar to those that caused our ancestors to create the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, including the Bill of rights and all subsequent Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

Upon the attainment, by way of a criminal hijacking of the American People’s Election Day votes, of a majority control of the Supreme Court and the Judiciary Branch, a majority control of the Executive Branch, and a SUPER-MAJORITY control of the Congressional Branch of our federal government, these Neo-con enablers, in my opinion, will carry out the bidding or agenda of their benefactors, the Neo-Cons, and proceed to dismantle any federal legislation and institutions that are not explicitly outlined in the original U.S. Constitution.

These actions will be challenged by the American People and then upheld, in my opinion, by a majority of U.S. Supreme Court justices, who shall opine, based on the “Strict Constitutional Constructionist” philosophy, which denies the spirit of the law of and identifies only with the letter of the law as written in the U.S. Constitution, that these federal actions are Constitutional to be the new law of the land.

This despite all of the great and verifiable documents of this great nation that remain available to all Americans and serve as the legal basis of our nations history and that demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that such “Strict Constitutional Constructionist” philosophy is itself a fraud being perpetrated upon the American People and a direct contradiction of the U.S. Constitution.

Our great nation’s founding fathers did not intend for this great nation to become a Theocracy, did not intend for this great nation to become a Democratic Republic in-name-only, and certainly did not intend for the American People to become permanently enslaved by an unjust federal government that denies the self-evident meaning of the U.S. Constitution and human rights, at the hands of Neo-Con federal government enablers and ill-gotten by the Neo-Cons theft of the American People Election Day votes.

While it is heartening to see today’s efforts, I am hopeful for additional efforts that will expand in scope, become more defined and goal oriented, and attract additional, powerful and truly pro-democracy leaders who can ensure that the mission of protecting the integrity of the Election Day 2006 vote and all subsequent Election Day votes, and the mission of enabling all Constitutionally eligible Americans to vote free from persecution, obstruction, and discrimination, gets accomplished in time to avert the demise of our beloved Democracy.

I only wish that I could personally devote more time, effort, and solutions to the cause.

May those who enlist for this mission have Good Will, Good Luck, and Godspeed accompany them in all of their efforts!
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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:29 AM
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46. What insanity is next? Dividing California into two states? OMG!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:53 AM
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42. We aren't leaving Iraq.
The pullback to the original number of around 100,000 (of permanent troop presence) the neocons planned to have indefinitely is in the works.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 12:29 AM
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43. T minus 343 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 04:27 AM
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44. T minus 342 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 03:24 AM
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45. T minus 341 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Listen to Murtha, yes.

Don't prolong the war just to keep it front and center through Election Day 2006 in order to antagonize voters into voting against the Republicans.

Voters tried so hard to reclaim their democracy in 2004 and look where it got them!

Don't set them up for a fall again!

Win the vote by being virtuous, not more devious than the Republicans.

Protect the vote.

Most Americans who are eligible to vote, will vote against the Republican & Democrat Neo-con enablers, given fair, honest, and verifiable Elections.

Maybe I am politically wrong about prolonging the Iraq war, but I'd rather be politically wrong than to be right at the cost of our soldiers, their families, and our nations reputation.

It is never too late to do the right thing!

It is never to late to realize ones error and to seek to correct it!

Do the right thing ... take the high road!
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 03:43 AM
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47. T minus 340 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
The Neo-con enablers are winning!

Time is slipping away from us.

Are we organized, informed, able and ready to take the actions that can protect the vote?

Recently, attention was put onto some of the correct issues.

However, within little more than a week, the Neo-con enablers have nearly succeeded in forcing their Unconstitutional electronic voting machines upon the voters of CA and NC.

NY is in the works.

They are winning! That means we are losing! What are we doing?

Please, do something!
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 10:24 AM
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48. 'Democracy', the illusion therof, is secure...go back to sleep. -nt
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:20 AM
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49. T minus 339 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Tick tock tick tock tick tock
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:38 AM
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50. Couldn't be stated any more forcefully; I agree with you.
What are your thoughts on how an individual can contribute at the local, or state level?

Most of what I have seen, or been told heretofore has been of no help. Who decides what voting systems are used--the Secretary of each State? And if these expensive, cheating, no-papertrail machines are already planned for use--what do we do?

A verifiable vote is essential. How is that guaranteed?

NoFederales
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 01:35 AM
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52. T minus 338 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Examples have already been given in this thread.

They should be viewed strictly as initial suggestions.
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Dances with Cats Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:48 AM
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53. With you on Diebold
but troop levels ain't gonna fall far in 2006 unless it is by massacre. The Bushwhackers have stirred up a hornets nest and knows it. Tropp withdrawal with NOTHING to claim victory upon is unacceptable and I can't see it happening. We got 'em by teh balls on this one!
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:51 AM
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54. This thread is Bookmarked! Excellent post! n/t
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Dances with Cats Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:34 AM
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55. kick
great thread
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SONUVABUSH Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 11:20 AM
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56. Are you kidding?
2006? I'll be amazed if the military is out by 2016!
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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:16 AM
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61. Has Murtha's alleged representation of the generals now been disproved?
Can Republican Neo-con enablers in the WH force the military to stay put in Iraq like targets in a shooting gallery, while the profits on the war stack up for another year?

The Republicans probably are secretly working hard on their own time line and exit strategy now, in order to implement it later this year and to call the War in Iraq a smashing success.

Will they will catch the #2 Al-Qaeada at least 15 more times before then as well?

Right before Election Day 2006, will the military be mostly out of Iraq as part of a broader plan by the Republicans to appear moderate and mainstream and to capture a super majority in Congress?

Well, that is why they play the game!

I guess we will find out in less than ELEVEN MONTHS!
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 06:00 AM
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57. T minus 337 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Everyone is talking about it.

THE VOTE IS BEING STOLEN!

THE VOTE IS NOT PROTECTED!

Every non-Republican believes it is true!

Many Republicans hope it is true, because it is their people, they believe, that hold the NEW ELECTRONIC DEVICE power over the vote!

ONLY ONE SLIGHT PROBLEM: the Republicans in Congress and on the Supreme Court, and in the Executive Branch are simply Neo-con enablers.

Once the Congressional Super Majority is attained, and the Supreme Court is tilted toward "strict <un>Constitutional Construction" the American Democracy will be as good as dead.

The more people talk about it and grow weary of it, the more HAVA is being used by State officials to shield themselves from accountability on protecting the vote.

SOMEBODY, CHALLENGE THE HAVA ACT!

Don't let it happen without a fight.

If we are doomed to slavery and serfdom, then let it be after all recourse has been exhausted, not because of our laziness and passivity.

Appeal to the US Supreme Court now, while Justice O'conner is still on the court!

File a case of Equity with the U.S. Supreme Court - QUICKLY!

Ask for relief from this HAVA Act.

The States are leaving a trail of documentary evidence of blatant unconstitutional decisions in the wake of their rush to force Diebold, ES&S, and Sequoia Voting Systems, amongst others, upon voters without lawful checks and balances on the protection of the vote.

Stall and then install! That has been the policy from day one.

Wait until the last minute, while the activists protest the whole while, and then at the last moment, scrap the whole public debate and ram it down the publics throat using the "time is of the essence" argument to usurp voters rights.

If they couldn't get it done lawfully on time, then those public officials should be punished, NOT US!

File a case of Equity with the U.S. Supreme Court - QUICKLY!

Ask for relief from this HAVA Act.

Also, file state by state applications for relief - injunctions against state legislatures and Boards of Elections to stop their BELATED rush to comply with HAVA.

File a case of Equity with the U.S. Supreme Court - QUICKLY!

Ask for relief from this HAVA Act.

We the people of the United States of America are witnessing our voting rights being reduced to an afterthought by elected and UNELECTED government officials who have sat on their hands waiting until there is too little time for a well thought out and publicly approved plan for statewide compliance with HAVA.

File a case of Equity with the U.S. Supreme Court - QUICKLY!

Ask for relief from this HAVA Act.

Instead, these same officials are working very hard NOW to force privatization of the vote, fraudulent voting devices, and unaccountability in Elections upon the American Public before the 2006 elections arrive.

File a case of Equity with the U.S. Supreme Court - QUICKLY!

Ask for relief from this HAVA Act.

CA and NY are as good as gone already!

You could list all the names of Registered Republicans on a sheet of toilet paper, single ply, in NY, yet they will demonstrate a convincing majority in 2006 on Election Day, and take over every critical public office and judicial seat that is up for election thanks to Neo-con enablers who are installing their e-voting machines as the government's official method of voting where they need them most in order to steal the vote.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:15 AM
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58. T minus 336 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:11 AM
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59. T minus 335 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Today, I believe more than I did yesterday that this countdown is accurate.

PREVENTION is the SOLUTION!
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:47 AM
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60. T minus 334 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
One less month to one less Democracy!

Ah, but wait!

If the definition of democracy gets changed to mean the opposite of its historical definition, then it might be proclaimed that Democracy is growing in America and that I am a liar!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:38 AM
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62. He knows
I found the timing interesting with Murtha. He has friends and talks to Pentagon guys. Remember going into Iraq was tied to the 2002 midterms. So something is going to happen for sure for the 2006 midterms.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:59 PM
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64. T minus 333 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
There is a great deal of ongoing election protection effort.

However, the broader, "Just in case," effort needs to be recognized and remedied.

Eligible voters must be prepared for burdensome voting requirements that they will face in the worst case scenarios.

In the end, if the eligible voters have overcome all odds, then there can be no question in any persons mind if the vote is hijacked.

The best strategy is prevention.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:41 AM
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65. T minus 332 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 04:34 AM
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66. T minus 331 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Truth is faltering! Truth is faltering!
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:06 PM
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67. Good post.n/t
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 01:33 PM
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68. T minus 330 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:28 AM
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69. T minus 329 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
The Constitution, The Bill of Rights and The Declaration of Independence

Are all in DieBold's hands, LITERALLY!

http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/history/history05.htm

2001

DieBold is awarded the contract from the United States National Archives in Washington, D.C., to secure the Charters of Freedom, which includes The Constitution, The Bill of Rights and The Declaration of Independence.

2002

DieBold enters the US self-service elections industry through the acquisition of Global Election Systems, a leader in touch-screen voting technology.

2004 *See 2005 DieBold insider's allegations!

2005

DieBold CEO resigns after reports of fraud litigation, internal woes

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Diebold_CEO_resigns_after_reports_of_1212.html

DieBold insider alleges company plagued by technical woes, DieBold defends 'sterling' record

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Diebold_insider__alleges_company_plagued_1206.html

2006 ????????????????? what is next ??????????????????
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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 02:31 AM
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70. If on Election Day 2006, Republicans win a Super Majority of Congress ...
Will public outrage against and objection to perceived and/or factual election theft be met by the Pentagon's war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country?

see undergroundpanther's thread here for the details:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5582171

For those of you, like myself, that prefer to have links to the original source:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/07/AR2005080700843_pf.html

Wow, only 329 Days left, ALREADY!
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 07:18 AM
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71. T minus 328 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 05:52 AM
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72. T minus 327 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:41 AM
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73. T minus 326 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 05:08 AM
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74. T minus 325 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Looks like word is getting out, eh?
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:13 AM
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75. T minus 324 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 03:13 AM by The Judged
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:10 AM
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76. T minus 323 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:36 AM
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77. T minus 322 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:50 AM
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78. I know what the repukes main argument will be in nov 2006...
that we have kept the country safe from terrorist attacks since 911.
I predict shrub will not invade Iran UNLESS there is a major terrorist
attack on American soil. Such an event will scare the public witless
and the final threat to Israel will be removed, meaning Iran run by
islamists.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:45 AM
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80. Can 400 lbs of plastic explosives be linked to such a potential attack?
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:43 AM
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79. T minus 321 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:10 AM
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81. T minus 320 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 03:17 AM
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82. T minus 319 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Like sand slowly descending through an hour glass, the seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, and months of this year are slowly fading into history.

Let us stand together to ensure that our Democracy does not fade into history in 2006!

Please, protect the vote.
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 06:16 AM
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83. T minus 318 days until the known end of the US Democracy.
Let the withdrawal begin.

The race is on for Election Day 2006.
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