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LimpingLib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 02:36 AM Original message |
DLC candidates lost us a dozen Southern Senate seats in just 2 years. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Good post. When are we going to start running populists? |
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LimpingLib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 02:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The sad thing is that I stopped 1/3 of the way through my list. |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 03:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. The sadder thing is that, if you ask most of those candidates... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
82. But they weren't running with the National Party |
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Tux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 02:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. South |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 03:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Its sick that we let the party |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 01:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Yep |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Even Knox County voted for Bredesen and the county is the |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 02:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Agreed |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 03:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Good point about Biden and Lieberman |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 03:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. was listening to ... shultz the other day |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Is that the guy running against Lieberman? n/t |
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Geekscum (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. We need socially moderate, pro gun, populists. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I know what you mean. |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Unfortunately there are plenty of democratic activists... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
10. you know, there are back stories to many of these... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Your examples |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. You would be right IF the campaigns were on ISSUES, but they WERE NOT. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. If the Republican agenda was the only one discussed |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Baloney...There was NO message allowed to be heard by the media. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. It was the Democratic strategy. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. There is NO media OTHER than corporate media to reach the masses. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. That's why an effective Democratic leadership |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Yea, Dems have a few billion $$ to buy their own media like the GOP did. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Deleted message |
blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. There is no there there. The GOP only wins because the media protects them |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Sorry, but its more complicated than that. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. you want to talk "complicated?" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Those are KNOWN Dems in specific areas. And you totally revised history |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. I would have been happy |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
72. YOU claimed he never took on controversial issues. Defend your claim. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. No, I never claimed that. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #80 |
95. It was his work to change those bills that made him appealing. He GOT it |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. and you've yet to prove "DLC style" losses elections |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Did you read the original post? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I did, and I debunked it in post 10 |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Maybe in your own mind. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. ok... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. First |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. oh, I see |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. The facts are that we have a |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. ok, back your assertions |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. dupe |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. I'm not going to spend the next three hours |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:53 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. in other words |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Deleted message |
wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 07:04 AM Response to Reply #79 |
84. no you didn't |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Deleted message |
wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. so was I and still am |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. We're going in circles but |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. waiting for what? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
77. where does Tenn. Gov Bredesen |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. The OP is wrong. NO Dem message, no DLC message was HEARD. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Come back to the real world. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. You are wrong. Millions of people in the streets were ignored because the |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. If we ever really had millions of people in the streets |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. The millions of people in the streets were during the antiwar protests |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. It was my intention to make a point about canvassers. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
71. They were also ignored because... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:20 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. The BEST opportunity to CHALLENGE the republicans... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Yes, we were supposed to play nice. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. The Democrats had an uncontested media spotliight... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. For what most DLC people did for Kerry, we could have skipped them |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. I am the original Al From hater on this board. He hated Kerry first. Then |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 08:24 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. I agree with you |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. it's a legitimate reason |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
74. It did not help that some of these candidates (DLC or not) |
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lancdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I agree with you |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
92. Mark Pryor won the Arkansas seat because of Hutchenson's affair |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. interesting that you accept this back story |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Mark Pryor won and Tim Hutchinson, the incumbant, is a republican |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. at the opening post |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
13. Excellent post |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. The DLC has it backwards in the South. |
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Geekscum (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. A socially moderate, pro labor, economic popularist |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. You're absolutely right. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. I would say that the DNC is guilty of that reasoning |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
60. The DLC will protect their Corporate Owners at ALL COST. |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. i don't think Majette-Isakson in Georgia |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. You're absolutely righ about Ga. |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yeah - you and me both...... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. See, that's where I think Howard Dean is going to help the Dems Nationwide |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
66. I wholeheartedly agree..... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
37. This will change now that Dr. Dean has some serious say in things |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 04:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. unfortunately |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
53. This OP is bogus. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Maybe an alternate opinion, |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. The fact is the evidence is not conclusive either way. n/t |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. The FACT is... |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. That is, indeed, a fact. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 06:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
68. The reason they |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. demonstrate to us just how they were DLC candidates |
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91. Post 51 |
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101. You're very good |
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103. corrections |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
100. Okay you can't deny that Schweitzer boasted a 100% NRA rating |
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PopSixSquish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-16-05 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
104. Do You Actually Live in the South? |
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105. Locking |
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