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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:49 PM Original message |
In the words of the DLC, why they seek corporate funding. 2002 article. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. See, exactly the same as the Republicans |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. More: they helped block good drug plan for seniors..oh yes. |
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Metatron (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. To me, this all reads as pro-business, anti-worker. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. They want to marginalize the unions and their demands. |
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Metatron (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I agree. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Right about the demonization of the unions...we went right along with it. |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
6. DLC = Rockefeller Republicans |
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LimpingLib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Reich is Pro labor but that aside I agree with every post EVERY POST!!! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. "Tone down populist rhetoric" "distance selves from unions" |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. This is where the DLC is steering us wrong... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 07:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. "I want you to defend this." So do I, but I doubt they can. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
39. they want to attract to the party the very people |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
60. And people say the DLC isn't Republican Lite. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. Well....they're in it now. They will be depending on Coporate Money |
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a new day (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. Now, would those hair splitters who say moderate Democrats NE DLC |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. We have a word for members of the DLC where I come from |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. And this really hurt us, this part. |
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KYDEM (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Kick |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Gee, no one wants to know about their funding. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
41. Trojan horse trojan horse trojan horse |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
17. Kick for the in-house ostriches. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 01:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. No one wants to hear it. |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
19. The DLCers know that it would be too difficult to start a party of their.. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yep, PURGE the DLC |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
22. This is troublesome |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
23. Join the PDA. In the immortal words of real Democrats everywhere: |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Here is the DFA link. Don't forget that. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
25. Another kick... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 11:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Still waiting for a good reason to be this pro-corporate. |
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Metatron (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 08:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I'm waiting, too. |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
27. Amazing..... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 12:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Maybe they like corporate funding? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 12:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. No, it's just past their interns' bedtime |
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KYDEM (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 12:53 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Kick again |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 01:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Now that is funny. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
62. Keep 'em coming, MF - the DLCers here (the non-ops) need to see them. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:08 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I can think of about a dozen that would normally pounce on any DLC thread |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yes, they should be lauded as role models for all the wannabe |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The DLC is a bunch of girlie men! |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:58 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Hey cease with girlie = bad |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #36 |
52. Does everybody hate Bill Clinton? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Hating DLC for taking corporate cash is not the same as hating Bill |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
71. Dean was lynched by the media and the RNC, and NO ONE came to his |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Straw man argument. Does not compute. Irrelevant. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
97. Obsessed much? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Some of them are in on the scam |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 10:10 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Which I why we shall keep it kicked |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
63. Perhaps we should send them links to this thread. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
35. Not to defend the DLC... |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 10:07 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Of course Lombardi said it best. |
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Bush was AWOL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Thanks for the explaination |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
59. "when you trade your values...." |
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Metatron (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
65. As far as the 72 race - |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
66. Would Clinton's center-right leanings have won without Perot? |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
70. The flaw in this, though, is that the DLC approach has only worked |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
80. Except, this time |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
37. as I have said before...they are a trojan horse from some right wing |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
38. Isn't the point here that they had to choose... |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 10:15 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. But that's the problem |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Isn't it a matter of trying harder to make it work... |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I agree |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. We bypass the corporations and raise money on the internet... |
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unfrigginreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 10:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. "We need Another Third Way" |
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rniel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
50. Al Franken proudly says |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I think Frankin is clueless to what they are about |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
51. OK the freaks who hate Bill Clinton need to come join the Greens |
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unfrigginreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. "Come join?" So, you're a Green? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Green at heart. I vote to win though. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. But the center continues to lurch rightward thanks to the Republicans. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
98. Hard for Bill!!! |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
56. I Think I'll Be The Asshole Here ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. A "pitch" is ok, but they sold out. |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. How Was the DLC Anti-Union? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Have you read ANY of my posts and articles at all? |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. In this thread, yes |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I have others in GD Politics right now. 3 of them. |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I Read Them |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 08:36 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. It is the spin-off organization from Dean's campaign |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Perhaps we could rebuild labor unions instead of taking corporate cash? |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. The Democrats Didn't Build The Unions ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. You need to think in terms of NAFTA and outsourcing. |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. That Explanation Doesn't Cut It |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Are you a member? |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. I'm Retired |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. When there are no jobs, hard to organize. They are trying. |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Here's an idea |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. Unions have been hit by both internal corruption and corporations |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. is the DLC pro-union? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. No, they are definitely not. |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. I'm the poster ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Not intentional. I will try to edit. |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Sure, No Problem |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. They have been made irrelevant: there is no party for them. |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. The Article Doesn't Detail ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Ok, I am done trying to convince. |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. You Give Up Way Too Easily |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. As a teacher, I remember the mantra...."US workers not trained well" |
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willysnout (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 08:24 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. My Reaction |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
99. "I Think I'll Be The Asshole Here ..." |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
100. So they went for the Reagan Democrats by |
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