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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 08:56 PM Original message |
It Appears Established, By Default, That The Towers Had Concrete Cores. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. It also appears, by default that the core contained no embedded explosives |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. How Is Total Pulverization Explained? - Critical, Dominant Event. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 01:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Just because YOU don't understand how it happened doesn't mean |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 02:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Why was it done to the WTC? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 03:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I see...and this was never documented or done to any other building? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. never documented or done to any other building? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. What other buildings in the world were "hurricane-proofed" the same way? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
93. If explosives were incorporated in the design it's a secret. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. I Understand Free Fall & Total Pulverization.A Dominant Fact.Limited Cause |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. What's really unusual is the persistent mythology that |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. The mythology is persistent because the 9/11 Commission endorsed it |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Actually, "they" weren't off on the UAL93 crash time. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. FAA computers and a seismic station were both off by the same |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. No, the FAA computers were three minutes different than a seismic event |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. According to 9CR there was no discernable seismic event |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 01:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. I'm not familiar with that source... |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:00 AM Response to Reply #57 |
67. You'd go along with the source |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. No, I just have no reason to doubt FAA timekeeping. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:04 AM Response to Reply #71 |
92. Maybe it's not FAA timekeeping, but 9/11 Commission's characterization |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 05:34 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. If you'll notice, MOST of the report reads like that. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 12:26 AM Response to Reply #94 |
99. the report was meant to be a list of conclusions |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 01:15 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. That's my point. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 01:39 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. So this is why we keep questioning |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 09:10 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. I DO know the Commission didn't lie about the FAA time of 10:03. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Well maybe you're satisfied that you can judge the witness's character, |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Who are you kidding? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:09 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I'm not kidding anyone. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:17 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Some Assertions Are Well Documented. Free fall, Pulverization. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 12:27 AM Response to Reply #104 |
116. That's the beauty of a large forum like this... |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 03:17 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Why would the commission lie about the time? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 03:27 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Actually, the FAA doesn't even have a "crash" time... |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 03:53 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. OK, the third time's a charm... |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Sorry--my "third time" remark wasn't directed at you but at my inability |
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Andre II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-22-05 07:08 AM Response to Reply #119 |
375. Loss of radar contact |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
109. There seem to be a lot of strange things about the time anomalies |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Really, I missed that endorsement |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. All right show us the pictures of the shattered concrete. Show us the |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Are you saying that there wasn't carpet in the debris? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Carpet should have been very conspicuous in the debris--a major pain in |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 01:46 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Even if there were explosives used, wouldn't there have been carpet |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 02:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
58. Everything Was Reduced To Small Pieces, Fragments. Firefighters Stunned |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:35 AM Response to Reply #21 |
43. So, where's the endorsement? (n/t) |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. They endorsed ten seconds; they didn't mention total pulverization |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Bigger than snow. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Gee, you must have got the only concrete they forgot to pulverize |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:25 AM Response to Reply #51 |
98. Well, maybe not everything was turned to dust inside the towers. |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. Kevin made a good case for concrete up a way; then steel n/t |
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Informed Citizen (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. DO NOT REPLY!!! - Correct of not, this is a distraction |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 11:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. "COMPULSIVE REPLY, DISREGARD" - What Fluff? Media Is Against Us. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
122. How is it that EVERYONE else is getting paid around here? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. Yes, Those Saying "No Concrete Core" Not Supporting The FEMA core, Got To |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 03:53 AM Response to Original message |
9. Someone may have already pointed this out |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
61. Good Information-Generally, Genre Of Towers Had Concrete Cores. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
10. You don't get to define reality. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Reality Defined By DEMO Photos - Not Theory. I Know Cores Were Concrete. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Again, SO WHAT? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Then: Why That Lie?-Think Why THAT Lie. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:53 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Sorry, I don't see the issue. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Sorry, The Important Thing Is That The Core Is Misrepresented. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 01:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Gotcha. They got it wrong, but it makes no real difference. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Steel Bends & Melts Concrete Does Not. Big Difference. Justice? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Ahhh, so you're claiming that it DOES make a physical difference. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:04 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. The concrete core would not have collapsed IMHO. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Sand & Gravel = Concrete = "How Did It Get Reduced?" = Explosives |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
184. check out the picture |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #184 |
185. more steel |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #185 |
187. Exterior Was Steel-We Don't Even Know That Pic Is Of Tower, I think Not |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 06:22 AM Response to Reply #187 |
192. well then |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:33 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. Get Specific-Your Act Looks Evasive-What Core Actually Stood? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. you are looking |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:25 AM Response to Reply #196 |
205. Deleted message |
Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:35 AM Response to Reply #205 |
206. Excellent point. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:06 PM Response to Reply #206 |
209. Nice Quotes, Where Are The 47, 1,300 Foot Steel Cores? Here's The Concret |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 04:19 AM Response to Reply #209 |
260. It doesn't look like concrete to me in that picture. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #260 |
438. Strength/Resistance Character. No Silouetting, Not Steel, Or Steel Identi |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #185 |
222. This looks like perimeter steel to me; anyone know what these are? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. That Is Perimeter Box Columns Not Core - What Core Do You Think Stood? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #186 |
193. how do you know |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #193 |
198. Evading Answering Again-You Will Support No Core Whatsoever |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #198 |
199. the only one evading here |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:19 AM Response to Reply #199 |
204. ERROR: I Prove Another Point & You Evade Yet One More Time-Sick Disinfo! |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 08:49 PM Response to Reply #204 |
219. do you understand |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 09:14 PM Response to Reply #184 |
221. I don't see any of the huge steel beams in your picture; which ones are |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-05 07:47 PM Response to Reply #221 |
223. Location, Direction Of Photos Can Be Tough To Determine And Very Important |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. What on earth are you talking about? Those are HUGE steel columns! |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #224 |
225. Point Made With Photo About Box Column Orientation-Where's Your Evidence? |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #225 |
229. Look, that's Liberty Plaza with a photoshopped roof. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. Make Sense, Context-Read, Respond Accordingly, Be Accountable ETC. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Again - no. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I've Proven That There Were No Steel Core Columns And That What Stands ... |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 06:14 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. No you haven't. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Your Turn: Explain Why Some Of 47, 1.300 FT. Steel Core Columns Are Not S |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Your "theory" is not proved by the absence of competing theories. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 02:19 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Concrete Core Not A Theory To Me. Obviously, Evidence Creates Validity. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 05:57 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. You have no evidence. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 07:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Here Is My Evidence. Reverse True, Or Post it. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:53 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Hmmm... No. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Evidence |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 12:22 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. You are right. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:30 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. AZCat, Again, No Evidence. If It Is Not A Concrete Core, What Is it? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 12:26 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. You just don't get it. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 01:32 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Because You Have No Evidence, You Can Disprove Nothing. Justice? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 07:30 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. That's what we call an "ignoratio elenchi", folks. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:11 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Labeling = No Justice, If You Say "No"|Substanciation, Or Support Fallacy |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Now I can't understand you at all. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Pleading "Stupid" Won't Help. You Are Busted |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:14 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. How am I busted? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 08:33 PM Response to Reply #90 |
164. Fake Interest In The Truth. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. Another nonsensical post, I see. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. If There Was Interest In Truth You Would Support The Core You Believe Sto |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 10:27 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. What then of Michelson-Morley? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 09:33 PM Response to Reply #168 |
202. Don't Expect Me To Know Your Clones Of Academia.Post IT!- What Core Stood? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #202 |
203. "Clones of Academia"? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:14 PM Response to Reply #203 |
210. No Subject Change/Evasion Distraction, What Core Do You Think Stood? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 02:17 AM Response to Reply #210 |
214. No subject change. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #214 |
217. Deleted message |
Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #214 |
238. By Default You Support The "Air Core"-Failure To I.D. Core You Think Stood |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #238 |
242. Do you think... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #242 |
246. Evasion, By Default, Advances The Concrete Core-"Air Core" Tactic Fails. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 06:44 AM Response to Reply #76 |
96. once again |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:28 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. Witnessing The Construction Of The Concrete Core- Video Documentary |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #108 |
155. if this video exists |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 06:41 AM Response to Reply #73 |
95. documentary |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:46 PM Response to Reply #95 |
110. As If Lawyers Were Credible. I Found 3 Others That Saw The DOC.& Concrete |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #110 |
220. i think |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
123. Here is your fallacy |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. "Forcing Dust Upward?" That Is fallacy, More Photos:Objects Up And Outward |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 06:56 AM Response to Reply #124 |
127. 4 seconds? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. Changing The Subject Getting Old - You Back Nothing What so Ever |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:42 AM Response to Reply #132 |
137. Perhaps you should not rely on your memory so much. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 07:35 AM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Let me get this straight... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. Off Topic - You Back Nothing But Confusion And Distraction |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 07:08 AM Response to Reply #133 |
139. In other words... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #139 |
146. I've Supported Statements But You Have Not. Chief Of "Air Core" Crew. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:56 PM Response to Reply #146 |
160. This is not a contest |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:27 PM Response to Reply #139 |
153. So You Have No Argument, You Just Don't Like Mine Replete With Redundant |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #153 |
161. Of course I have an argument. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #161 |
167. That Is Not An Argument, That Is A Claim - Empty Because Of No Argument |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 10:29 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. "Reasonably support"? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #169 |
175. How can you say the photograph is not evidence? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #175 |
179. I think... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #175 |
353. Free Fall & Pulverization Must Be Explained. Authentic Evidence Explains. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 07:41 AM Response to Reply #133 |
142. i think |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:14 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. 1st, What Core Do You Think Stood? - Define Your Position Or Be Chafe |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:17 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. once again |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #124 |
136. Your photographic memory is wrong |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #136 |
148. Consider I Remember Correctly But Value Wrong, Also, Relay Switching. |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:15 PM Response to Reply #148 |
157. Yes, you remember wrongly. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
174. wonderboard |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #174 |
181. Wonderboard Didn't Exist In The 1960's - State The Core You Think Existed |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #181 |
189. that would be incorrect |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #189 |
195. You're Evading Question-Which Core Do You Think Stood? Describe It. If, |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-06-05 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
12. Rebuttal to concrete core arguement |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Great post! |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 05:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Welcome to DU. |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Excellent post |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Great post! |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Thanks for the kind words |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Good Rebuttal Although Not Comprehensive To Free Fall & Pulverization. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. But WHY would anybody put explosives in the concrete?? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. To Have An Excuse To Conduct War = No Investigation, Destruction Of Eviden |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. In 1968?? |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 09:39 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. ALL PHOTO'S SHOWING CONCRETE CORE |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 01:40 AM Response to Reply #39 |
77. Deception, New Core Plans At Last Minute. Some Had Legit Reasons |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
103. Hmmm...amazing this was done only for the WTC towers... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #103 |
152. 1990 PBS Documentary On Twin Towers CONST. Can't Imagine It Is Availa |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 07:45 AM Response to Reply #77 |
143. where is |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:29 PM Response to Reply #143 |
154. sabbat hunter: Do You Assert The Towers Had No Core? Please Be Clear. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 09:49 AM Response to Reply #154 |
173. I'm asking you |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #173 |
182. Your Post Is Evasion - What Core Do You Think Stood? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #182 |
183. no sir |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #183 |
201. You've Seen Plenty & Shown Nothing But Shabby Disinformation Technique |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 01:03 AM Response to Reply #183 |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Steel bends before breaking unless hit by high explosives? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 01:43 AM Response to Reply #33 |
78. Steel Bends Before Shearing. Special Conditions Before Shear Occurs. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. No it doesn't. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Look At Any Sheared Edge, Sharpness, Tearing = Bend |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:47 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Judging by your past claims... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Easy To Say & Again, You've Provided No Evidence. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. The onus is on you... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. What Core Do You Think Existed? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:14 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. No. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
111. You Are Busted. I've Proven The Concrete Core And No Steel Core Is Proven |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Your opinion... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Disagreeable W/NO Argument = Unreasonable W/Questionable Intent = Fake |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Why would I care how many people support your theory? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 10:47 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. This now makes at least three posters... |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 12:52 AM Response to Reply #113 |
117. And here are some people who don't seem to agree with you: |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-14-05 09:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
126. Thanks, My Record Speaks For Itself. Read And Find NO ACCOUNTABILITY |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Your record certainly does speak for itself. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 08:39 PM Response to Reply #129 |
134. Off Topic - You Back Nothing But A lie & Try To Trash Truth |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:56 AM Response to Reply #134 |
138. Golly, I reposted my explanation of the "rebar" picture. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #138 |
149. Ironic - I Proved Reverse Was True By Quotes That Were Edited. Mods Okay |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #149 |
156. HOLD ON! ARE YOU CALLING ME A... |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 07:14 AM Response to Reply #134 |
141. That's funny... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #141 |
150. Okay, You Believe The Tower Had "Air Cores" No Core.-Just Guessing |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:42 PM Response to Reply #150 |
158. It must be frustrating to remember the documentary and not |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #150 |
159. I don't have to. |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Free fall and pulverization is a different subject. Stay on materials |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:29 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Concrete Can Fracture And Fall, Steel Not So Easy. Different Materials .. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. Ye gods. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Where have you been hiding? ( n/t ) |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 06:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
97. deleted by poster |
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MrSammo1 (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
41. Why not |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
64. Deleted message |
sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
69. nothing is |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
91. I think that might be One Liberty Plaza in the pic |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #91 |
131. p.s. here's a little map showing the relationships: |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 07:09 AM Response to Reply #131 |
140. And WFC 1 was where the picture in question was taken? |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 09:54 AM Response to Reply #140 |
144. Looks like the pic was taken in Jersey City |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:13 AM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Oh - duh! |
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PerpetualYnquisitive (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #131 |
162. That picture is incorrect... |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. The relationships are correct, |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
130. Christophera; what evidence do you have to support this statement? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-15-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. Concrete Debris Too Small For Collapse, I Rely On Common Knowledge. |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
170. I think the mysterious PBS documentary has been found. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 11:14 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. I'll have to watch it at work tomorrow morning. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #170 |
176. Brian Clark testified to the drywall around the stairwell. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #176 |
177. Sheetrock and steel |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 07:03 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Christophera's concrete-tube core is not inconsistent with |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 04:23 AM Response to Reply #178 |
180. No it isn't. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #180 |
188. Error: Concrete Core Went To Top And Is Consistent W/Drywall Lining |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #188 |
207. Where is your proof that a concrete core went to the top? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #207 |
211. Concrete Roof Of WTC 2 Core-Why Are 47 Steel Core Columns Not Seen. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-05 04:50 AM Response to Reply #211 |
227. Do you ever get tired of being wrong? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #170 |
200. Yes Steel, But No Structural Steel In Core-Photos Of DEMO Do Not Show It. |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #170 |
233. Thank you for the link. |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #233 |
234. One more thing... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #234 |
239. You Would Be The First To Suggest Hard Aggregate Floors. Maybe |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 09:19 AM Response to Reply #239 |
243. Maybe you should try reading what people actually write. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #243 |
247. Maybe You Should Explain Why The 47, 1,368 Foot Steel Columns Are Unseen |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #247 |
250. I'm afraid you aren't the arbiter of who gets to post what. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #250 |
251. right on! |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #251 |
257. Thanks for your support |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 03:32 AM Response to Reply #257 |
258. RE: how quick were they when Payne Stewart's plane went off course? |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #258 |
261. Great it looks like |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #261 |
263. Ok, now I've got some time. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #261 |
273. I disagree. |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-05 11:28 AM Response to Reply #273 |
274. You're a very bad man (I assume you're a man) |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-05 09:21 AM Response to Reply #274 |
304. You know what they say: "When you assume,.... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #250 |
267. Reason Is Arbiter: When 3,000 Americans Are Killed & No Investigation .... |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 06:35 PM Response to Reply #267 |
269. I say it was a steel core |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-05 03:19 AM Response to Reply #269 |
271. OK, You Don't Want To Confront Evidence Or Be Accountable. What's New? |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #271 |
275. Simple by that time |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #275 |
287. 650 Foot Steel Columns WIll Be Visable, Not In this Photo. Show Us A 650 |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-05 09:54 AM Response to Reply #247 |
272. How about an argument with evidence? |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #272 |
278. Great find but why |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #278 |
288. mechanical floors |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #239 |
244. I've got as much business as you do! |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #244 |
245. Don't get sucked in. Plenty of drawings have surfaced, |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #245 |
248. I've Got 1963 Plans, What Year Are Yours. Mine Are Useless, Yours Look Th |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 11:48 PM Response to Reply #248 |
249. Oh please. You've got a couple of doctored photos, period. n/t |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 03:07 AM Response to Reply #249 |
254. I Guess You Don't Read, The Thread Starts With Link To Photo Check. |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 06:20 AM Response to Reply #254 |
255. Um, they're wrong. n.t |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #255 |
265. Judging By Your Evidence, Comment And Relevancy VOID, Easy To Say. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #233 |
235. awesome |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #235 |
236. Thank you |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #236 |
240. You've Only Seen One. There Are Many Videos Of Construction. Origins Of |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 11:16 PM Response to Reply #240 |
241. so now its |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 05:06 PM Response to Reply #241 |
264. Asking For Impossible Rather Than Standing Up For Your Position. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 05:31 PM Response to Reply #264 |
268. obviously |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-05 11:47 AM Response to Reply #268 |
276. You Refuse To Explain Evidence You Are Looking At-Where Are Steel Columns? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #268 |
277. You Cannot Produce CONST. Plans For Steel Cores, They Did Not Exist. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #277 |
289. You Cannot Produce CONST. Plans For Concrete Cores, They Did Not Exist. nt |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 09:16 PM Response to Reply #289 |
290. But I Can Produce A picture Of The Concrete Core-THX For OP. To Make Point |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #290 |
295. You seem to have your own version of "logic"... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:28 AM Response to Reply #295 |
298. Process Of Elimination-Nothing Else But Concrete Could Appear That Way |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-05 09:12 AM Response to Reply #298 |
303. Just because you can't think of an alternative explanation... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 12:52 AM Response to Reply #303 |
316. Correction: I Can't Rationalize An Alternative Explanation. No evidence |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 01:02 AM Response to Reply #316 |
317. Please post your calcs... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 01:59 AM Response to Reply #317 |
319. We Don't Need No Stinking Calcs. Intuitive Proportion & Experience. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #316 |
368. Actually, I think that you already are. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 03:14 AM Response to Reply #368 |
371. You Offer No Reasoning. My "reasonably detailed answer" For The 5th Time |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 12:59 AM Response to Reply #371 |
377. Well done. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-05 03:01 AM Response to Reply #377 |
384. Pretending You Do Not See The Significance Will Not Diminish It. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-05 08:07 AM Response to Reply #384 |
385. I am simply asking you to explain its significance. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #385 |
393. It Is Clear You Do Not Know Structural Steel And Concrete- CONC. Fractures |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #393 |
401. I asked for a reasonably detailed answer. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #401 |
403. If You Won't Use INFO & Reason You Can Pretend To Not Understand=Confuser |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 07:23 AM Response to Reply #403 |
409. I'll try not to omit anything this time. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #409 |
411. Strange How Little Things Are Too Important. You Forgot About 3,000 Dead |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #411 |
412. Your approach reminds me of our friend George... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:16 AM Response to Reply #412 |
413. Proper Use Of Emotional Reasoning Includes Justice. Your Sad Distortion. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:13 AM Response to Reply #413 |
415. Bullshit. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #415 |
416. Easy To Say While Supporting The Lies Of Murderers-No Investigation. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:21 AM Response to Reply #416 |
430. Again with the bullshit. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #430 |
433. No Theory. Events Must Be Explained. You Have Media, I Have Evidence. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #433 |
434. That's almost humorous... |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #434 |
439. I disagree. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #434 |
442. Now Frum Is More Important Than Structural Differences. New Meaning For |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:41 AM Response to Reply #411 |
428. It had only been 15 days since your previous reminder. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 01:20 AM Response to Reply #428 |
445. The Notion Of Rights And Freedoms Escapes You. Without Truth, They Died |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 06:20 AM Response to Reply #445 |
447. Please tell me how you have reached this conclusion: |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 10:56 PM Response to Reply #447 |
450. Your Behavior/Position Is Incompatible With Rights & Freedoms Because |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 11:11 PM Response to Reply #450 |
451. i say |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:48 PM Response to Reply #451 |
458. Just Because You Cannot Address The Evidence Of The Concrete Core Does Not |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 07:45 AM Response to Reply #458 |
461. why do you |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:52 AM Response to Reply #450 |
453. "no" to the concrete |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 09:43 AM Response to Reply #316 |
396. rumpel's new thead appears to document that the core supports were steel |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #396 |
437. I Finally Found The Thread. Overhead Photo Shows No Steel Core Columns |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #241 |
279. I'm Supposed To Hunt Down Video But You Won't Use Your Eyes And Brain. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-31-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #279 |
280. it is you |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-05 02:34 AM Response to Reply #280 |
281. Better Some Evidence Rather Than No Evidence, Which Is What You Have. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-05 07:32 AM Response to Reply #281 |
282. you have lost all credibility |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #282 |
283. You Have No Evidence, At Least I Have That And It IS Raw, Undeniable For |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #283 |
284. why do you |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #284 |
285. Logically, We Can Only Use Available Evidence. Why Suggest Unavailable? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #285 |
286. do you |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 09:29 PM Response to Reply #286 |
291. You Have No Evidence, I Have Plenty More. Photo Of Core Wall, End Section |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #291 |
292. your evidence |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 10:59 PM Response to Reply #292 |
293. Does Steel Make Dust? The Diagram Fits The Photo, Light Shines Through |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #293 |
294. dust |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-05 10:43 PM Response to Reply #294 |
296. Use Eyes, Brain-Recognize Material Characteristics: Do It For Justice |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-05 11:56 PM Response to Reply #296 |
297. it all looks like |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #297 |
299. Explain Why The Center Vertical Element Looks Like Steel: Image Here. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-05 01:26 AM Response to Reply #299 |
300. because |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-05 03:23 AM Response to Reply #300 |
301. Please Explain Why The Middle Element Looks Like Steel To You.. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-05 07:47 AM Response to Reply #301 |
302. who is |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #302 |
305. Okay, I Get It. You Will Not Reason, Will Not Explain Why You Think A Pho |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #305 |
306. why should i explain |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #306 |
307. ERROR: Link To One Of My Explanations. To Explain Is To Reason. Are You U |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-06-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #307 |
308. how is this |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #308 |
310. Incoherent Response: My Opinion Was Explained. Point Made - NEW POINT |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #310 |
311. see my reply |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #311 |
312. Your Assertion Is Unsupported And Contrary To Evidence. Use Evidence |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #312 |
313. i did |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 01:23 AM Response to Reply #313 |
318. Consider All The Images Of The Demo Are Known & There Are 3 Pics I Use. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 10:03 AM Response to Reply #312 |
314. One by one: |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #314 |
315. Pictures |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 10:56 AM Response to Reply #315 |
330. RE: Stumped? |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-05 04:40 AM Response to Reply #330 |
336. I'm stumped |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #336 |
341. I don't know why it looks like that either. |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 02:52 AM Response to Reply #341 |
344. I have no idea |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 02:11 AM Response to Reply #314 |
320. Floor Plan Not Built. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 07:40 AM Response to Reply #320 |
321. third image |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #321 |
322. What You see As Core Column Has Floor Beams=Outside Tube. = No Evidence |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #322 |
323. how do you know |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #323 |
324. I know Construction. Too Much TV? How Come You Don't Know Why Steel |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #324 |
325. you are the one |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:01 AM Response to Reply #325 |
326. PBS DOC. Pre 9-11-Core Not Visible In CONST. Photos. You Haven't Explained |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 07:42 AM Response to Reply #326 |
327. earlier posts |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #327 |
329. Core Was Never Visable After The 7th Floor, New Video Has No Core Images |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 02:15 AM Response to Reply #327 |
363. This Is Where You Should Have Explained Why 47, 1,300 FT Steel Columns Do |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 09:57 AM Response to Reply #363 |
365. as i have stated before |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #326 |
328. were they or werent they? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 09:55 PM Response to Reply #328 |
346. Some Later Videos Showed Concrete Core-Latest Do Not |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 12:01 AM Response to Reply #346 |
347. ok then |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #347 |
348. Documentary Aired On Nova Or History Channel Perhaps. Engineer Saw It And |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 10:26 PM Response to Reply #348 |
349. well |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-19-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #349 |
362. I Use Video To Explain Evidence. You Want Unavailable Evidence. U Find It |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 09:55 AM Response to Reply #362 |
364. you are absolutely |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #364 |
373. You Admit I've Asked The Same Question Repeatedly And Use Evidence To |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #362 |
366. Christophera, check out Architectural Record, October 2001 |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #366 |
374. Have A Link? Early Core Descriptions Are Very Confused. Trait Of Lies |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #374 |
383. No, no link. I'm talking about the hard-copy of the magazine |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #383 |
389. If In OCT.2001, Then It Is Of The Group Of Hastily Aquired INFO On Core |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #389 |
390. until you can |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 03:21 AM Response to Reply #390 |
394. ERROR:I'm Not Claiming DOC. Is Proof Of Concrete Core. I'm Using It To Ex |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #394 |
395. Put up or shut up |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #394 |
399. and for about the 8th |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #394 |
400. Remember this? |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-26-05 10:34 PM Response to Reply #389 |
391. "I have a photographic memory..." |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #391 |
404. Ignorant Of Construction & Psychology Now? Common Definitions, New Ploy? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:41 AM Response to Reply #404 |
406. photographic memory |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #320 |
331. Not Built? |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #331 |
332. Inspection drawing |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #332 |
333. RE: Doubt |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-05 03:42 AM Response to Reply #333 |
335. Many thanks for reply and link |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #335 |
339. You're welcome. |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #339 |
340. It appears you are not quite following my reasoning either |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #340 |
342. Apparently not. |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 07:13 AM Response to Reply #342 |
345. Drawing |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 09:37 AM Response to Reply #345 |
350. "it's only a little better than..." |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 03:04 AM Response to Reply #350 |
354. Source is unsourced |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 07:44 AM Response to Reply #354 |
355. well then |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 08:38 AM Response to Reply #355 |
356. I don't dismiss it |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #356 |
357. no photographic evidence |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 03:56 AM Response to Reply #357 |
361. It was a good pun |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 02:08 AM Response to Reply #354 |
359. "I think this is evidence..." |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-18-05 03:53 AM Response to Reply #359 |
360. You are correct |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 09:15 PM Response to Reply #360 |
367. To each his own. |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-05 03:35 AM Response to Reply #367 |
372. Quality of arguments |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 12:39 AM Response to Reply #372 |
376. Not really. |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 02:48 AM Response to Reply #376 |
378. If you were hoping |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-05 08:20 AM Response to Reply #378 |
386. At first you thought the drawing was evidence.... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-05 03:25 AM Response to Reply #331 |
334. ALT. Photo Different Phase: Spire Pic Shows Wall Behind Columns. Inspecti |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #334 |
338. Sloping semi horizontal top edges? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 10:26 PM Response to Reply #338 |
343. What Is Important Is That There Is A Wall Behind The Steel. Use Available |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 09:57 AM Response to Reply #343 |
351. elevation |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #351 |
352. I Guess You Forgot About The 3,000 Murders. Only Concrete Appears Solid |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #352 |
369. Thanks for the reminder. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 02:00 AM Response to Reply #369 |
414. Is This An Effort To Make Information Go Away? No Justice, No Legitimacy |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:54 AM Response to Reply #414 |
429. Legitimate vs. Illegitimate |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #429 |
432. Information Fits EVENTS. You Want Theory But Events Have Limited Causes. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #432 |
441. It's not the pictures themselves. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:02 PM Response to Reply #441 |
443. Information Conclusive & Congruent W/Evidence Of All Types. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #314 |
448. Your Opinion Has No Reasoning With It. No Dismissal Of Evidence Possible. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 10:41 PM Response to Reply #448 |
449. Yet the majority of people here think the cores were 47 steel columns. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #449 |
452. Still: There Are No Good Explanations For The Absence Of Steel Columns |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:31 AM Response to Reply #452 |
454. It is your turn. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:38 PM Response to Reply #454 |
457. Can You Tell Us Where The Image Of The Construction Document Came From? |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 01:08 AM Response to Reply #457 |
460. I can. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:24 PM Response to Reply #452 |
456. Analysis of this "rebar" photo: |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #456 |
459. Some Pixels Have The Bar, Viewed Diagonally Through 2 Walls, Partly. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
172. No. It may be established in your mind, it already was. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #172 |
190. "Operating Knowledge" By Default, Core Was Concrete - Opinion & Logic |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. Look, there's no "concrete core" in that photo. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #191 |
197. What Photo? This Photo Shows The WTC 2 Concrete Core. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #190 |
208. I'll bet my "engineering common sense" against yours... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-05 08:56 PM Response to Reply #208 |
226. Exercise Common Sense And Explain Away The Flex Of "All Steel Structures" |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
212. This is from an engineering school web page |
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sgsmith (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 06:38 AM Response to Reply #212 |
215. And that page has wrong information |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 07:19 AM Response to Reply #215 |
216. That is a piss poor excuse. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #216 |
218. Architectural Record cite for concrete core |
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Jon Gold (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-05 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
228. Hi Chris |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-05 10:42 PM Response to Reply #228 |
231. Jon, They Were Quoting You Here Earlier. Where You Been? |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-25-05 11:58 PM Response to Reply #231 |
232. Could you please show us where someone has quoted him? ( n/t ) |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 03:57 AM Response to Reply #231 |
259. Pretty please. With sugar on top. |
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Jon Gold (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 12:14 PM Response to Reply #259 |
262. For The Record... |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #262 |
270. I realize that was a different poster. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
237. Deleted message |
philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #237 |
252. Is there agreement that WTC7 had concrete core; and WTC7 was rebuilt with |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 02:37 AM Response to Reply #252 |
253. The original WTC 7 had a steel frame, not a concrete core. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #252 |
266. WTC 7 Had Steel Frame. New Design Has Concrete Core |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
256. Pictures of tower debris and shell of tower after collapse by WTC worker |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-17-05 09:29 PM Response to Reply #256 |
358. Nice Link. "the cranes were pulling out red-hot iron pieces." +- 1200 F ! |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
309. special on history channel |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #309 |
337. Trussed Floor Not Related To Core. Floors Were Light Weight Concrete |
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theSaiGirl (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #337 |
370. Professor Jones - and the common-sense "physics" of imploding skyscrapers |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 04:03 AM Response to Reply #370 |
379. whose common sense? |
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theSaiGirl (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #379 |
380. Controlled demolition is right in your face |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 12:24 AM Response to Reply #380 |
425. Refreshing Logic: Obvious Photos Of Towers Blowing Up. Big Distortions |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-24-05 12:33 AM Response to Reply #370 |
382. "The real tragedy here." Wow! I Couldn't Agree More. Core Problem |
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theSaiGirl (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-05 07:27 PM Response to Reply #309 |
388. SPEED of collapse = obvious controlled demolition |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #388 |
392. ABSOLUTELY Rudimentary Logic-Dual Uniformity Not Acceptable As Collapse. |
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liberal43110 (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-23-05 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
381. I've been away for a month.... |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-25-05 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
387. I just watched the NOVA special on why the towers fell |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #387 |
397. Media Complicit In Keeping The Secret Of The Concrete Core & Other Secrets |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #397 |
398. It's really hard to get pre 9-11 info, have ya noticed? :) |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:00 AM Response to Reply #398 |
405. I've Noticed: Even Some 9-11 Data Has Disapeared. Freshkills Photo, Steel |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:44 AM Response to Reply #405 |
407. once again |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:21 AM Response to Reply #407 |
408. Assumptions Do Not Replace Facts. Don't Assume Web Is Permanent & ........ |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 07:48 AM Response to Reply #408 |
410. there are |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #410 |
418. Common Mistake: You look, I Gave Up 2 Years Ago. Military $ Developed Web |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 01:01 PM Response to Reply #418 |
419. i have to explain nothing |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #419 |
420. You Can Explain Nothing:Molten Steel Needs Explanation & You Don't Like It |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #420 |
421. once again |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #421 |
422. While You Have No Evidence, You Don't Like The Evidence That Exists, Weak |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #422 |
423. holy moley |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #423 |
424. You Must Oppose With Substance & You Have Presented None. No Logic |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 12:29 AM Response to Reply #424 |
426. so in other word |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 01:41 AM Response to Reply #426 |
427. You Distort And Are Too Selective To Be Interested In The Truth |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-05 12:04 AM Response to Reply #397 |
402. Have you seen rumpel's thread on WTC construction? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #402 |
417. Do You Have A Link To That Thread? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:28 AM Response to Reply #417 |
431. Here. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #431 |
435. Can't Find Anything That Is Specific To The Core From Those Links. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #435 |
436. I didn't read the thread... |
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theSaiGirl (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 06:05 PM Response to Reply #436 |
440. Here's a good place to start ... |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:33 AM Response to Reply #440 |
455. Hmmm... |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #435 |
444. I am still looking. Here are some links to the stairway aftermath. The |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #444 |
446. Bottom PIC Appears To Be Corner Of Core. ALT PIC. Other Side. |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
462. There is NO CONCRETE CORE at all. |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
463. Locking |
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