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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:05 PM Original message |
Oliver Stone's "JFK" |
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cheshire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Bush Sr. was in the CIA at that time. They're not called the Bush Crime F |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I know, but there was no mention of him in the film - of course |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Poppy's name was mentioned by De Mohrenschildt... |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's a lot of both. |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Yes, especially when there is such an abundance of |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. Since reconstruction, actually. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. Definite links now go back to November 22nd, 1963 |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. CHeck out Robert Groden's JFK Assassination films |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Actually, they showed a grainy version of the Zapruder film in |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I should watch JFK again, it's been a long time. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 09:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. "Back and to the Left" right? |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-27-04 12:40 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. re:physical evidence |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 08:26 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. You reserect this post for that? |
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Slit Skirt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. you do not know the facts... |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. What about the fake moon landing theorists? |
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Slit Skirt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. what about a fake moon landing? |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:10 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Excuse me? |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 09:10 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. OCT fantasy #1? Film shows JFK'S head snapping backwards and blood |
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Abe Linkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. Your views seem to be those of someone who is not very familiar... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Deleted message |
vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. But I digress |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. JFK's assassination is kind of like a Rorschach test |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Actually, that overstates the case. |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Maybe they thought we should "heal and move on" |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Exactly, and watching that film made this concept very clear to |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. It doesn't really require a vast "conspiracy" -- a lot of what you |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
37. "you have to believe...that the CIA was in bed with the mafia" |
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Barney Rocks (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. It is a fun flick, but |
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Chomp (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. "JFK" is almost entirely garbage! |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. You make so many unsupported statements, and get so much wrong, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Deleted message |
Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Tsk, tsk |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Thanks - I was mostly wanting to know if the premise was |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. The problem is |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 11:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Eloriel, here's another online book you may find interesting: |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. So how come Ruby knew that Oswald was in the FPCC? |
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KBlagburn (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. Where The Magic Bullet Theory Really Came From!!!! |
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WoodrowFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. agreed |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Wow, that's pretty interesting. However, I don't think the official |
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Chomp (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. No Smirkmoney... |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I will never believe the government's version. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. so what do you think happened, wise sage?? |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
48. There was a cover up |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Curious... What Books Have You Read On The Subject ??? |
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Baja Margie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
22. I remember vividly |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Good summation |
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Baja Margie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Yea, sorry, 2nd day of Migrane Headache. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 11:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Ooo, sorry to hear that |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 11:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Thanks for your input - those are exactly the kinds of things |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. Garrison was a media whore, and a NUT case |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Yeah, that's what they say about anybody who speaks out |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 08:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Umm. When did he "speak out" In 1952???? n/t |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
83. On Garrison |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 09:14 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. All links to the same disinfo site! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Deleted message |
tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. And the same in return. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. convenient |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #49 |
62. Abe |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Thought you were talking about Abe Linkman |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
25. People of Peace lost its leader. Party of War won a battle. |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. So essentially, they didn't just assasinate JFK, but the |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-07-04 11:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. And let's not forget |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 05:53 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Brown and Root made a lot of $$ in VN+was investigated for poor |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. The plot thickens.... |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Well, there's something to be said for REALISM |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 08:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Thanks, that's heartening. |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 06:46 AM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Camus wrote- Despair is one sin we are not permitted. |
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Abe Linkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. The late ROBBIE Basho created incredible music on his 12 string. n/t |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 12:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
81. If you insist on beliving there is an octopus... |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
40. I remember in my pre-skeptic life |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
75. JFK: One Hundred Errors of Fact and Judgment |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:35 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Umbrella Man |
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MrSammo1 (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
45. Mr X |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-04 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
66. It is completely innacurate. |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 06:40 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. What's your take on the JFK assassination? |
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Abe Linkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 09:12 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Oswald was just a Patsy. He didn't shoot or shoot at JFK. |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:11 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Still wondering what ES thinks. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:13 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Now I don't know if Oswald was on his own... |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:26 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Any other questions ever give you pause? |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Whether the "guvment" lies is irrelevant. |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. You haven't answered the question. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I could give you a simple yes or a no |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 09:17 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Dare I suggest the question IS relevant? Just do it anyway, for fun. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #70 |
82. Wellstone? He wasn't assassinated, his plane crashed. |
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