|
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend Bookmark this thread |
This topic is archived. |
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Israel/Palestine |
Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 07:56 PM Original message |
The Gaza Bombshell |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. I do know what to say. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. ... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. empathy for whom? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. critical mass |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. One problem I've noticed with empathy.... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. Surprise not n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. I implore any serious observer/critic/student of the I/P conflict to read this piece. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. We - they already knew or strongly suspected |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I have talked about a US-and Israel-backed coup on this forum for months |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I tried too and got the same result |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Here is one piece, that pieces it all together and is corroborated. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. The election was rigged |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
breakaleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Didn't Jimmy Carter say it wasn't? I think he is worthy of listening to. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. The report does not say there was cheating |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. So Fatah rigged the election against itself? nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. The point was that Fatah itself was (and is) split internally, not that the election was rigged. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
10. naive me. I thought everyone knew this. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. And we Americans wonder why so many in this world hate our guts. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. its far murkier than... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Read the piece. Nothing murky about it. The US and Israel backed Abbas in a coup attempt. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. As I remember he dismissed the paliament, appointed a new PM or whatever it is, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. hamas and fatah.... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Yes I do think we know. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. seriously? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Deleted message |
azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Did you read the article or just assume? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. You deny Hamas's actions? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. No I did not deny anything n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. is this another one? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Please Pelsar read the article |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. The question is whether you are being deliberately obtuse or what |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. But I did not deny that |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It was known |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. As with so much of Israel's "narrative"... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I dunno if sweet is the term iI would use n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. Hamas did perform a "coup" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Did you read the article? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Actually yes I did |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. If Hamas wanted power all to itself: why in the world did they pursue a unity gov't??? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Because other Arab countries pressured them to |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Can you source that? Because I recall their asking for a unity gov't about |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. i think your ignoring repolitiks.... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I am ignoring nothing. I am simply stating after after 18 months of being |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. That was pretty much my take. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I'm not so benevolent to Abbas. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I know you are not. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. What do you think of the "peace talks" being back on? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Abbas has always wanted to negotiate, always wanted to talk. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. How could he go forward? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Why are you asking me? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Sorry! Just throwing the question out in the wind for anyone to answer. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. OK! I don't have an answer. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Here's a newsflash: Everyone wants peace talks between Fatah and Hamas except Israel and Abu Mazen. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
27. Was this before or after the Executive Force was created? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Yeah, I dunno why any of it's a surprise. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
33. Boy, there are some great quotations in this: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. i thought that was rather absurd... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Yeah. I don't know if you know, but it echoes her response to the 9/11 attacks, too. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
35. Another one: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. “I’ve asked why nobody saw it coming,” Condoleezza Rice |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. She was installed before the Dems had control |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-10-08 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
62. "Kill A Hundred Turks And Rest…" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) | Mon Sep 23rd 2024, 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
Advertisements [?] |
Top |
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Israel/Palestine |
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators
Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.
Home | Discussion Forums | Journals | Store | Donate
About DU | Contact Us | Privacy Policy
Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.
© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC