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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:38 PM Original message |
Man shoots 4 people, self at San Bernardino, Calif., Del Taco; 2 dead including 8-yr-old boy |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. If everyone eating at Del Taco was armed this wouldn't happen. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Right! It would probably be more than 4. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Or it could have been less... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Yes, but which is more likely? |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Well, I'm not sure. Someone legally carrying will have had training, so... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
34. Why don't you tell us? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. After missing the first 5 times because of the adrenalin... |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Or after hitting the assailant the first time because of training... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 01:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Legal gun carriers, acting in defense of self or others... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I am waiting for somebody from our very own Gungeon to suggest the 8 year old should've been armed. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. What a moronic statement |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. are you opposed to children have the right to defend themselves? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. No, but I think their parents should have had the choice to get training and a carry license. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. And we all know |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. The 8 year old should have been armed |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. You will have a very long wait. N/T |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Nah, I went ahead and said it to make him happy |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Only a fucking idiot would seriously suggest such a thing |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
33. Actually, what is more likely is that somebody will trot out that particular straw man |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-21-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
38. keep waiting. And waiting. And waiting. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. if they weren't eating at Del Taco this wouldn't have happened |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. A chance is better than no chance. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. Actually, the only people with guns in restaurant mass-murders were murderers. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. So what's the beef this time? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-21-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. The shooter was a criminal with an extensive record ... |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well, somebody finally found a way to make lunch at Del Taco worse. |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Ouch n/t |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
7. why didn't he just shoot himself ? did he know the people he shot ? |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. The names and relationships have not been released but it seems |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Probably a disgruntled family member of some sort. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Stepfather of the critically injured woman and step-grandfather of the children. (n/t) |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. He shot himself because he is a coward |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
18. The murderer had an "extensive and violent" criminal record |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. It's all about the easy answers for them. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 06:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. There ought to be a law that prohibits people with "extensive criminal records" from having guns |
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east texas lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. This is a flat out failure of the criminal justice system more than anything else... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
30. Shooter had an extensive criminal record dating back to the 1970s |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. According to what I read in the paper |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-21-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Why is it?? |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-21-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Too organic to be accidental |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
31. If only |
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