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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:10 PM Original message |
Seems that many Democratic pols are bent on professional suicide. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yep.... |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. Which "base"? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Then 'be smart' and vote for the republicans. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. It can be hard to pull hte lever for your own party when every candidate is anti civil rights |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. too bad gun RIGHTS...is important to many, many more voters. NT |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. Without knowing what controls they are recommending, it's hard to have an opinion. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. Responsible ownership is not anti-gun |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. +1 |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Most of the current laws are reasonable ... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Banning the responsible ownership of the most popular guns *is* anti-gun, though. |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Seems to me that you've set up a strawman here. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. Well, Dems aren't carrying guns in NYC. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Montpelier is convenient and pleasant, too. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. And like Montpelier, most of those places are chock full of Democrats. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. You could add that Democrats in NYC don't carry guns without political connection. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I find it interesting how many antigun pols carry guns - as do many of their rich friends. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. In New York, "carefully licensed" = rich and politically connected N/T |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. He DID have a semi-auto in the SUV |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 02:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
44. And that's why there's never been any terrorism in western Europe |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. We have to put some stricter rules on guns....right now it seems |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Why? Murder and other violent crime rates are at the lowest levels in decades. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. Since crime is at historic lows, what exactly are you trying to accomplish? nt |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Yes, restrictions are being loosened, because the restrictions are stupid. N/T |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. The truly sad part is that Republicans will benefit ... |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. 'Gun owners are often single issue voters' |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. But are jobs, healthcare, and the economy more important than gun control? |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Apparently you don't, since in your ego-based support of bad gun "control" |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. All people should, but often gun owners have a significant investment ... |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. "in other words, if a politician is incapable of calculating something as simple |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. If someone on your boat *insists* that it's necessary to drill holes in the bottom... |
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chibajoe (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
50. Wouldn't it be smarter to throw |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. LOL |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Who cares about being able to defend yourself against violent crime? N/T |
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shedevil69taz (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Eh not really |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I hear you here.........but I think it's the Independent voters we need to be |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I am also a gun owner and voted for Obama ... |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. . |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
11. For those who missed The Nation article "Democrat Killer"......... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
47. Interesting piece, I thought (I had indeed not read it) |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. "All politics is local. " Tip O'Neill nt |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. You know, at one time it was unpopular to speak in favor of civil rights for racial minorities. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Funny you say that when you support gun control. |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Using the issue of civil rights to deny the civil right of self-defense. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. The right not to have bullets enter your body is not mentioned in the Constitution. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. No, but the right to use a weapon that also fires bullets... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. And I was right. |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. You're notorious for your arrogant, unjustified claims that it is "axiomatic" |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I am trying to tell you I am right as humbly as I can. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You may sincerely believe you are right, but you have yet to demonstrate it |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Are all men created equal? Or is that a belief without evidence because we want it to be so? |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 03:26 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Sorry, but no "humble man" could possibly show the degree of contempt |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. LOL! |
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