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Kelly Rupert
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:03 PM Original message |
Harvard study: More guns mean more murders |
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thecrow
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oooooh, go figure! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Sky is blue. Water is wet. |
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Irreverend IX
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Sat Jan-13-07 04:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
48. Y'know Tierra... |
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Sun Jan-14-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #48 |
70. Deleted message |
sinkingfeeling
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. What a surprise! |
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Mikey929
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. Get Ready for Attack! |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. and here ya go |
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LSK
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. in other news, water is found to be wet |
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maxsolomon
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. but, without guns |
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Kelly Rupert
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:15 PM Original message |
Crossbows n/t. |
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maxsolomon
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. did you hear that Mr. Hackett? |
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Benhurst
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. A very controversial view in |
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Fovea
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. And an elephant seems very like a rope |
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karash
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Fri Jan-12-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. . |
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Fovea
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Other disciplines inform me differently. |
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Viva_La_Revolution
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. ... |
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shance
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. Why does Washington DC, which has a gun ban, have highest per-capita rate of murder in the country? |
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karash
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. . |
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piedmont
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Sat Jan-13-07 01:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
45. Are you honestly that elitest and authoritarian? |
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Crandor
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Cities with high crime will want to do something about it. |
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Xenotime
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Are you saying they should? |
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Kelly Rupert
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Fri Jan-12-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. He's saying that they do. n/t |
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Kelly Rupert
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Because areas that have a lot of gun crime want to lower it. n/t |
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spoony
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Sun Jan-14-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
71. I suppose that theory works for the first few years |
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billbuckhead
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. Far, far more Americans die from guns in America than the war in Iraq |
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shance
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Sat Jan-13-07 01:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. If one lived in such areas, would it not make sense to have a weapon? |
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Porcupine
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Sat Jan-13-07 03:15 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Been there, done that and no. |
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Irreverend IX
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Sat Jan-13-07 03:58 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. If you are without a weapon but alert... |
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Porcupine
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Sat Jan-13-07 05:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Sorry, I call Bullshit. |
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Irreverend IX
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Sat Jan-13-07 06:58 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. "Guns are for professionals and cowards." |
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TheGriz
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Sat Jan-13-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. Hmm. Your Kung Fu is very weak! |
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spoony
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Sun Jan-14-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #49 |
72. You contradict yourself |
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Fovea
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Sat Jan-13-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. The last time I had to draw a weapon |
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sammythecat
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Wed Mar-28-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
82. but porcupines are well armed as you know |
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krispos42
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Sat Jan-13-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
61. Yes, it does, except that |
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krispos42
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Sat Jan-13-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
62. Well, to be fair about DC... |
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Marie26
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Fri Jan-12-07 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
12. Well, duhhh. nt |
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jody
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Fri Jan-12-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
15. This report appears to be a continuation of previous work which used a flawed |
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Kelly Rupert
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Your rebuttal requires |
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salin
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. links or sources, please? |
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jody
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Previous reports by the same group have been discussed on DU's Guns forum. |
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candidate
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. Wait, so guns kill people? |
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Initech
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Fri Jan-12-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
22. Guess this was a slow news day... |
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Wiley50
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Fri Jan-12-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
23. Why Does This Post say ADVERTISMENT in all Caps |
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Kelly Rupert
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. ? |
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Wiley50
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. You Did The Cut and Paste |
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salin
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. if you go to the link |
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SanCristobal
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
25. More guns also means fewer rapes, assaults, and robberies. |
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billbuckhead
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I dispute it, what crap! The Brits have a much lower rate of rape and murder |
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krispos42
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. No, our homicide rate is triple that of the UK |
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billbuckhead
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Sat Jan-13-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Actually gun crime is going up since the NRA took over the White House |
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krispos42
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Sat Jan-13-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Yeah, since the economy tanked |
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slackmaster
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Sat Jan-13-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #37 |
57. In the very long term, US homicide rate has always been about 3X that of UK |
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krispos42
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Sat Jan-13-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. It used to be even worse |
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sir pball
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. We have an unpleasantly high non-gun murder rate too |
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billbuckhead
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Fri Jan-12-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. The gun lobby crowd always focus on assaults, but downplay murder |
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sir pball
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Sat Jan-13-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #41 |
58. I dowplayed nothing. |
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Conan_The_Barbarian
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
27. I'd like to see the study |
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Viva_La_Revolution
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
28. is it a symptom or the problem? |
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krispos42
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
32. Sooo... |
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Redneck Socialist
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
39. Study shows states with higher homicide rates have more murders |
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aikoaiko
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Fri Jan-12-07 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
40. This thread reminds me that I need to buy another gun. |
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benEzra
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Sat Jan-13-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #40 |
54. I just purchased a Kobra optical sight for the SAR-1... |
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Toots
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Sat Jan-13-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
51. Right wingers will argue profusely against such a report while try to disarm Iraqis |
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benEzra
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Sat Jan-13-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. And people catering to right wingers to look "tough on crime" |
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benEzra
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Sat Jan-13-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
52. Funny that New Jersey and Florida have essentially the same 2005 homicide rate... |
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krispos42
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Sat Jan-13-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. It can be argued that the AWB is why the homicide rate dropped |
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benEzra
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Sat Jan-13-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. I wasn't trying to argue post hoc, ergo prompter hoc... |
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krispos42
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Sat Jan-13-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Just wanted to prepare the inevitable :-) |
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jody
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Sat Jan-13-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Sometime ago I presented stats proving old people have fewer accidents than |
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slackmaster
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Sat Jan-13-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
56. Yes, that's why the District of Columbia has such a low murder rate |
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Igel
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Sat Jan-13-07 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
63. I hope the researchers said something more useful than |
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benEzra
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Sat Jan-13-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Rifles account for about 2.9% of homicides... |
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jody
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Sat Jan-13-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
67. Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of reviewed firearms laws. |
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Wickerman
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Sun Jan-14-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Different Study |
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jody
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Sun Jan-14-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I know it was a different study. My point is that an independent group reviewed |
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Wickerman
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Sun Jan-14-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Kind words, Jody |
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Speak soft carry Big
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Mon Jan-22-07 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
76. Wait, a study funded by the Joyce Foundation said guns are bad? I'm positively shocked. |
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Speak soft carry Big
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Wed Jan-24-07 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
77. Is it not _shady_ that the authors refuse to share their data? |
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iverglas
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Sun Jan-28-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. hahahaha -- so you're not as good |
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Spoonman
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Now we understand |
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shield20
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Thu Jan-25-07 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
78. OF course! If there were alot of murders in my state, I would buy more guns too! |
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shield20
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
81. Study shows NO correlation between # of guns & crime or murder! |
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