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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:50 AM
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Birdflu: end travel to n. AND south america from outside: ocean shields
Edited on Sat May-20-06 12:40 PM by oscar111
AS THE PANDEMIC RAVAGES THE REST OF THE WORLD....

NOT ONE PERSON GETS SICK IN NORTH OR SOUTH AMERICA

...NOT ONE !



Use National Security Agency's Infrared IR satellites to spot the "heat signature" of any plane or boat engine that tries to get through.

Use our two oceans as a barrier to the birdflu... very, very few would try to cross on their own, so this barrier would be easier to perfect than a fence at Mexico and Canada.

The only problem areas would be small planes and oceanic trawlers coming in from Iceland/Greenland, or the islands off Chile. Such areas could be sealed easily using NSA's IR heat-spotting satellites. {About Siberia/Alaska... our coast guard has long Cold War experience with sealing off Siberia from Alaska}
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LOW COST.. JUST EXPAND THE CURRENT SATELLITE WATCH

Those IR satellites were used to watch the seas during the Cold War, and i wager they are even now surveilling the tramp steamers Newsweek reported as being owned by friends of Osama. So watching these two new problem areas, and the long coasts in general, should be fairly cheap, all in all.

Newsweek also reported that microphones were placed on many seabeds to track the soviets, so that also might be used here.
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SIX LAYERS OF PROTECTION FROM THE RAGING PANDEMIC

Microphones, coast guard boats, patrol aircraft, shore binoculars, radar and above all, the IR satellites. The few who try, would not get through.

By sealing off the Americas for the 18 months of the birdflu, we would save 7 million lives, north and south. 7 million, plus we save the internal economy {no dead employees, no "40% staying home to avoid the flu".} Well worth the loss of external trade for that short a time. I value 7 million lives and our economy more than external trade.
But brace for screams from the import tycoons. {Also note, ... buying "made in the USA" saves our jobs. Imports are not entirely a blessing.}

For more details, ...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=222&topic_id=8348&mesg_id=8348
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:55 AM
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1. How exactly do we stop the birds from migrating? n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:58 AM
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3. we can pepper them with birdshot
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:24 PM
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4. A good job for Cheney but
I doubt he can hit anything that isn't tame or drunk.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:57 AM
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2. Unrealistic and not immediately applicable.
1) Unrealistic:

We can't seal the borders NOW. What makes anybody think that we'll be able to effectively seal them with LESS manpower (if H5N1 goes human-human, there will be a lot of sick people....including those watching the borders). In addition, "sealing off" the Western Hemisphere would completely destroy the world economy.

It ain't gonna happen.

2) Not immediately applicable:

Right now, BIRDS are spreading the (non human-human) H5N1 virus. We can't stop bird migrations, so the bird-human strains WILL get into the Western Hemisphere...where they have as much of a chance of mutating into a human-human strain as they would anyplace else.


This ill-conceived idea would be immensely costly and wouldn't prevent H5N1 (in any form) from reaching the U.S.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:48 PM
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 06:44 PM
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6. Don't forget: Rumsfeld and Tamiflu...
"Bird Flu"
Do you know that 'bird flu' was discovered in Vietnam 9 years ago?
Do you know that barely 100 people have died in the whole world in all that time?
Do you know that it was the Americans who alerted us to the efficacy of the human antiviral TAMIFLU as a preventative?
Do you know that TAMIFLU barely alleviates some symptoms of the common flu?
Do you know that its efficacy against the common flu is questioned by a great part of the scientific community?
Do you know that against a SUPPOSED mutant virus such as H5N1, TAMIFLU barely alleviates the illness?
Do you know that to date Avian Flu affects birds only?
Do you know who markets TAMIFLU?
ROCHE LABORATORIES.
Do you know who bought the patent for TAMIFLU from ROCHE LABORATORIES in 1996?
GILEAD SCIENCES INC.
Do you know who was the then president of GILEAD SCIENCES INC. and remains a major shareholder?
DONALD RUMSFELD, the present Secretary of Defence of the USA.

Do you know that the base of TAMIFLU is crushed aniseed?
Do you know who controls 90% of the world's production of this tree?
ROCHE.
Do you know that sales of TAMIFLU were over $254 million in 2004 and more than $1000 million in 2005?
Do you know how many more millions ROCHE can earn in the coming months if the business of fear continues?

So the summary of the story is as follows:
Bush's friends decide that the medicine TAMIFLU is the solution for a pandemic that has not yet occurred and that has caused a hundred deaths worldwide in 9 years.
This medicine doesn't so much as cure the common flu.
In normal conditions the virus does not affect humans.
Rumsfeld sells the patent for TAMIFLU to ROCHE for which they pay him a fortune.
Roche acquires 90% of the global production of crushed aniseed, the base for the antivirus.
The governments of the entire world threaten a pandemic and then buy industrial quantities of the product from Roche.
So we end up paying for medicine while Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush do the business.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/tamiflu.asp
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 02:04 PM
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:53 AM
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