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jeanruss Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:17 PM
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why they want Edwards out
I was watching c-span this evening while making dinner, and something stopped me in my tracks. They had on a discussion group from the Army War College and I was struck by what one of the professors said. Of course this group of teachers and military officers of varying ranks are very pro-war(after all it is how they earn their living, you know). They were asked by a reporter what impact the election would have on the war. This professor's answer was "the sooner they narrow the field, the better it is to maintain the war. The longer they have to campaign against each other, the more likely they will have to commit to stopping the war, because it is so unpopular." I thought this was a stunning admission. Basically what I took from it, was that they are fully expecting another Republican President. Edwards has already committed to ending all combat missions, so that is probably why the media(owned by defense contractors) is constantly pushing for him to exit the race. Probably if he did exit, talk of the war would stop and the economy would take over as the hot topic, and we still will not have a candidate who will end the war. They don't want the choice to be between a candidate who is pro-war and one who is anti-war. If Clinton and McCain are the nominees, there will be no one to end the war.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:26 PM
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1. RIGHT ON!
excellent post.

That point gets lost in the shuffle - and I hope, even though Hillary is now saying she will end the war (according to the last debate, which was different for her), that John hammers that point and says again, that they are the status quo and they continue to fund the war - the Democratic voter that is sick of the war and the bilking of the American worker needs John to be heard so he wins this.
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jeanruss Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:39 PM
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10. thanks
I will follow you advice and thanks for the support. This website keeps me sane while I watch what's going on!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:28 PM
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2. send your message to the Edwards campaign
you could even priority mail it in a handwritten letter since that's not so long, and say you hope John is strong in his wording in these debates and doesn't ever let up because he's got support. You wrote that very well.

John Edwards for President 410 Market Street, Suite 400, Chapel Hill, NC 27516
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:28 PM
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3. Clinton and McCain are the two most pro-war candidates in the race
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:30 PM
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4. I went to the regular county Dem gathering this a.m. About 100 people
Representatives from Clinton, Edwards, Obama, and Kucinich addressed the group briefly.

The Clinton person talked about how all of us know who Hillary is and what she cares about.
Kucinich's person said he's the only one who is really against the Occupation of Iraq.
Obama's speakers, 2 of them, spoke about nothing but their organization.
Edwards's speaker talked about specific issues and how much he wants to engage the struggle for real change.

If the Edwards person hadn't been there, nothing much at all would have been said about anything in particular.

IMO: Clinton & Obama are The Money Machine covering its bets on opposite ends of the main issue spectrum: Hillary is their pro-War candidate and Obama is their anti-this-War candidate (though he was definitely very slow and tooo careful in identifying with that position).
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:43 PM
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5. I am an Edwards supporter: I know he would certainly try
to end the war. Try is the operative word. We have a Congress
with Democrats in the House and Senate who will stand with the
Military against their own party and President.

The fact that Democrats would not vote to defund the war at any
point is not just because of GOP--We have to face the fact
that Democrats support the war too.Some Democrats. Culturally,
the South, Some Plain States and the Western states culurally
have Nationalistic, Militarist streaks. It is in their bones.


I support Edwards and like Hilary too. I believe they will both
end the war as soon as the Military thinks it is viable for
them to get out.

Our party can be schizophrenic . It would be simple if they just
said. We are an internationalist party. Once we are at war,
some of members support it to end. Add these to the GOP
and no president will ever get the votes to stop the war.




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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:51 PM
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6. They want Edwards out so they can win. Kucinich is still in and never voted for the Iraq war!
Edwards WROTE the Iraq War Resolution and voted for it!!

Why do you think Kucinich is being marginalized and ignored by the Dems and the M$M??

Because he's against the war and has been from the beginning unlike Edwards or Clinton.

“It was not easy to be against that war back when we cast that vote in October of 2002,” Durbin said. “I was one of 23 who voted against the war. Barack was supportive – one of the few candidates speaking out against it strongly in Illinois.

“If President Clinton had opposed that war as strongly as Barack Obama at the time, it would have helped a lot of us who had voted against authorizing an invasion.”
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:10 PM
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7. They have already shifted the debate
Polls now claim that the economy is the hot issue.
Absolute Bullshit!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:06 AM
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8. "If Clinton and McCain are the nominees, there will be no one to end the war." . . .
there will be no way to end the war no matter who is elected . . . the decision has been made at the highest levels, including the Democratic Congress . . . ain't gonna happen . . .
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:36 AM
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9. Shit! Why isn't everybody kicking this up!
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PADEMJES12 Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:59 PM
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11. Go John Edwards.. keep firin away
The corporate media, the war machine, and corporate welfare international corporations want John Edwards gone because he is the only one speaking openly about the reality for so many. Donate to Edwards in the 7 million findraiser on Friday Jan 21 thru his website so we can keep the Edwards machine rollin in the face of those he's really upsetting, because he's exposing them all for what they are. Profit pigs willing to sell any little guy or family out for a dime.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:54 AM
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12. Great Post
Thanks!
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