Stars you were surprised to find out were gay/lesbian?

[elperromagico]

Name 'em here! :)

[ugarte]

1. Cary Grant

I don't know why I was surprised, but kinda was.

[elperromagico]

2. Oh, yes. He was supposed to have had a relationship with Randolph Scott,

right?

[Rabrrrrrr]

30. Singing: "Raaandooooolph Scott!"

[ronnykmarshall]

81. You are so quick!

'scuse me while I whip this out!

[Rabrrrrrr]

93. Heh heh

Glad someone got the joke! Hard to do with just text and not being able to actually sing it.

Oh, it's twue!!

[Bill of Rights]

111. Straight guys who like bi women....

Here's a good one: Josie Maran.

She told Howard Stern that she likes to bring her girlfriends home for sex and sometimes lets her boyfriend touch them.

She modelled Guess Jeans, Neutrogena, etc. Kind of wholesome.

[TheMightyFavog]

3. Errol Flynn

End of Line.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

46. I believe he died in an apartment off Burnaby St in Vancouver

in the arms of a sixteen year old. I'd always assumed it was a girl, but now...hmmm.

[MissMarple]

104. I thought he died on a yacht off the coast of Spain in 1956 from a heart

attack, and what about all those 15 year old Jamaican girls?

[Screaming Lord Byron]

105. Looks like it was Vancouver.

http://www.hollywoodcultmovies.com/html/errol_flynn.html

Here's some local tattle on his death.

http://www.lesbigay.com/bios/flynn.htm

[kskiska]

131. Funny how memory fails us

I remember when he died and could have sworn it was on his yacht off Cuba with his teenage lover Beverly Aadland.

[Laughing Mirror]

4. Barbara Stanwyck

and the Australian girl who played in Grease opposite John Travolta. What was her name?

on edit: I'll answer my own question: Olivia Newton John.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

9. Erm...where did you get your Olivia Newton John info?

She used to date both my dad and my uncle and as late as last year she had a male b/f

[Laughing Mirror]

13. that doesn't mean she's not gay

Cary Grant had a wife (Dyan Cannon) and kids too.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

45. She's bi...

[foreigncorrespondent]

54. Where did you get your facts...

...about ONJ?

[comsymp]

94. That's been circulated for 20+ yrs

IIRC, she even discussed it (her bisexuality) on Johnny Carson, circa Grease -
Seems like she pissed him off- something about "one night w/your wife..." but, like I said, that was late 70's and I was probably :smoke: ATT.

[montana_hazeleyes]

5. Raymond Burr,

Rock Hudson,The Brady Bunch dad,forgot his name.

[lazarus]

12. Robert Reed, I believe

Makes that whole series a bit odd to watch, doesn't it?

And what kind of architect designs a house for 9 people with, apparently, 2 bathrooms?

[NashVegas]

20. I'm Not an Architect

But I would, maybe. Try growing up in a house with 7 people and one bathroom, and you will learn the meaning of the words 'patience' and 'cooperation.'

If anything, I place the blame of our increasingly instant-gratification-driven, non-cooperative society directly on the rise of two children-three bathroom homes.

[TahitiNut]

23. I blame it on BPH

:silly:

[NashVegas]

24. ???

Sorry to sound dumb, but what that?

[TahitiNut]

26. Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia

Increased frequency (and urgency) of urination is one the symptoms.

[Bog Frog]

28. did you ever see a TOILET in either of those bathrooms?

I didn't. ;)

[ScreamingMeemie]

44. ...and no toilets....

;)

[Mike Daniels]

65. Technically, I thought that was the house the guys had already lived in

and that Carole and the girls moved in.

Could be wrong though. The Brady Bunch was never one of my favorites even when I was a wee lad watching it afternoons after school.

[thom1102]

66. I bet that Alice had her own bathroom...

guessing, but we never saw the inside of Alice's rooms, and we never saw her fighting with the kids for toilet access.

[AngryAmish]

98. Tom Thayer (ex-Chicago Bear) tells a funny story about Ray Burr

I heard it on the radio. Basically, he was in Hawaii when younger when Raymond Burr pulls up in a big car and asks young Tom if he wants to come over to his house and "do some yardwork." Mr. Thayer declined.

[Bolo Boffin]

6. Burt Lancaster

Burt was bi, anyway, and a sexy beast as well.

[Dover]

7. Rock Hudson

...and now I'm shocked again. Didn't know that Cary Grant was gay. Shucks...he was my idea of a dream hubby.

[never cry wolf]

103. Rock Hudson was born in Illinois

but he was reared in California.

(No offense intended, an old joke in these parts.)

[Dover]

8. Well Shazzzam!

Jim Nabors..........NOT surprised.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

47. Jim is not gay!

Where do you come up with these things!? He's married!
Duckie

[Screaming Lord Byron]

50. Pardon my ignorance, but who is Jim Nabors?

[GOPisEvil]

52. He played "Gomer Pyle".

[Screaming Lord Byron]

56. Oh, right. Got you. Thanks.

[thom1102]

67. It is fairly well established that at one point...

Jim Nabors and Rock Hudson were lovers. Can't provide sources, but I have heard this for 19 years.

[Ratty]

79. Okay, I always heard Jim Nabors and Raymond Burr

A double "Eeeew." Never heard about JN and Rock Hudson.

[caledesi]

10. Jodie Foster nt

[Racenut20]

18. Not Jodi!!!! Say it aint so JO

[caledesi]

22. It's so. Shocked me too. nt

[Kat45]

39. Funny that it shocked you, because I always thought she was gay

[Sanity]

42. Well Raygun almost died because we didn't know

n/t

[lazarus]

11. Tom Cruise

Well, not really surprised. Mildly surprised. A little.

Okay, not at all.

[pagerbear]

17. This is just a rumor, as far as I know

...and very likely wishful thinking.

Yes, I've heard a particularly salacious version of this rumor, but still, that's all it is.

[lazarus]

29. I got it from a fairly direct source out here in SoCal

But yeah, it's a rumour, for now.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

41. His position is complicated by his Scientology.

Which considers homosexuality a mental illness and a weakness.

[thom1102]

68. Yeah, me too...

Friend of a friend can confirm, supposedly.

[radwriter0555]

69. uh ever notice the rumors are ONLY about really HOT actors? Never the

John Candy types?

It's wishful thinking.

[terrya]

73. LOL. Notice how no one was surprised about Nathan Lane, for instance?

I've been to a few gay message boards and this "who's gay in Hollywood" question will come up. And usually the speculation will center on hot guys...Seann William Scott or Orlando Bloom. Never less than hot types.

Terry

[Screaming Lord Byron]

78. Well, if they weren't hot, who would care?

Although, I have to say, in the case of Tom Cruise, the rumours are pretty much all-pervading and have been for at least fifteen years. That's more than the usual stuff about people like Orlando Bloom or this year's model, as it were.

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

88. Let's start a Steve Buscemi is gay thread

Don't flame me. He's a good guy (liberal) and a terrific actor.

[JVS]

Or that guy who plays Newman on Seinfeld

[tishaLA]

106. Well how about Louie Anderson then?

remember when he was blackmailed a couple years ago by a guy he's "employed" to jerk off in front of him?

On edit: Somehow, I initially typed his name as "Louise" Anderson. LOL. :o

[ronnykmarshall]

82. Same here.

Living in middle of it, you hear rumors. But I had a friend that confirmed it. It's the worst kept secret in Hollywood that he's gay.

[FloridaJudy]

14. Carrie Fisher and Penny Marshall

Have been living together quietly for decades, according to a recent report.

It restores my faith in romance.

[regnaD kciN]

15. Wow...

Paul Simon and Rob Reiner's exes wind up together. Who'd a thunk it?

[Bog Frog]

27. what report is that?

Enquiring minds want to know.

edit: I wouldn't be surprised at all, not in the least. I just need more than rumor.

[Bryan]

32. Yeah, what the hey?

I recall that, in the early '90s, Carrie Fisher expressed a fair amount of public shock when her then husband (prominent CAA agent Bryan Lourd) left her for another man. Was that entire imbroglio a bearding operation gone awry, or what?

[YellowRubberDuckie]

48. Penny at the most is Bi...

She has a son...And that sounds silly to me...I thought Carrie was married with children.
Duckie

[thom1102]

71. You seem to be hung up on the idea that...

If someone is married and/or has kids, that they can't be gay. Trust me, it ain't that easy. My ex fiancee (long time ago) miscarried my kid, and I am gay gay gay gay gay. I once considered myself bi, but I no longer do. I know plenty of men who were married, and have kids who are now living with their boyfriends. I am friendly with many men in the same age group as Nabors, Grant, Hudson, and most have been married, some have kids, and all talk about the tremendous pressure when they were younger to hide their sexuality, usually by getting married (it is really interesting to hear how many of them spent some time in the seminary).

Most experts agree that sexuality is a spectum and that at different times in people's lives they can shift along that spectrum.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

77. No, that's not it....

I agree with you...but at that did you not consider yourself bi, and now women are no longer attractive to you? Tastes wain and change...
Duckie

[thom1102]

86. Yeah, I did consider myself bi...

But I was trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole. I am not saying that there is no such thing as bi, but most men will call themselves bi when they are really gay, just because it is perceived as more ok to be bi than gay.

[radwriter0555]

70. Uh no. There is no romance.

Carrie has children, and penny is just... strange. Gifted and strange.

Bi-sexual one or the other, but not mates.

[gator_in_Ontario]

16. Agnes Moorehead n/t

[Norbert]

19. Richard Chamberlain

At first I took the Archie Bunker approach with him. He has matinee idol looks and could have any lady around.

I guess that wasn't to be.

[terrya]

21. Paul Winfield.

I was genuinely surprised to hear that this recently deceased marvelous actor was gay.

Terry

[Deja Q]

25. John Nathan-Turner, and the concept of polari...

Okay, he's a famous British TV producer who also fought the British tabloids in 1984 when they started hounding him because he hired a rumored-to-be gay actor in the 'Doctor Who' story "Planet of Fire" (I think I can guess which actor it is... well, one and maybe another...).

http://www.ling.lancs.ac.uk/staff/paulb/polari/home.htm - about a covert language homosexuals used, though not strictly homosexual, so the name-dropping this site does may not be accurate.

Carrie Fisher and Penny Marshall was a bit of a surprise too...

[Screaming Lord Byron]

43. Bona to vada your eek, Hypno.

Not sure why I can speak Palare / Polari, but I assume Morrissey is the guilty party. The gay actor in Planet of Fire was I assume, the guy who played Jason King. No one on the planet was surprised to hear that JNT was gay though, but I don't think it was much of an issue. Any other gay Who tidbits?

[amazona]

63. John Nathan-Turner was out of the closet when I met him...

...and quite flaming and in-your-face about it but maybe this was the later 1980s, don't quite recall the date.

[Mobius]

31. Liberace

LMAO, well not really

[TheMightyFavog]

37. Hey, My Grandma McDonnel had a huge crush on him back in the day.

She was so heartbroken when she learned that he was gay.

[FlaGranny]

53. My mom liked Liberace, too, but

she didn't care if he was gay. She also loved Johnny Mathis.

[Snow]

116. Okay, I saw your title & thought,

:wtf: who would ever be surprised by Liberace being gay? Then I saw the rest of your post. Whew! Had me worried for moment. Did you ever see his house? A piano shaped swimming pool, keyboard and all.

[kskiska]

132. Liberace successfully sued a British gossip columnist

who hinted that Lee was gay. For the rest of his life he lived the lie. He actually believed that no one knew and that his fans would desert him if they knew. Phyllis Diller was his friend and had lots to say on this after he died.

[Snow]

134. Oh my god, I didn't know that.

sad. That was life back then, I guess. When I was a kid, we went to a pediatrician, good doc, very nice guy. Along about '58 or so, he got outted somehow, and killed himself. And this was in Van Nuys, mind you.

[tishaLA]

33. Nell Carter

[thom1102]

72. REALLY?!?!?!

Wow! I did not know that! Cool.

[camero]

34. Jodie Foster and Jordan

Not Jordan. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. :cry:

[thom1102]

74. Jordan who?

[camero]

92. The supermodel Jordan

[tishaLA]

35. Doogie Howser

well, not really surprized.

[Shananigans]

60. Doogie is gay??? Say it ain't so!

State your sources!!!

[thom1102]

75. I heard that he was Stephen Sondheim's Boy Toy...

I have later heard that isn't true. But he is gay. Again, friend of a friend.

[tishaLA]

36. Sherman Helmsley

a.k.a. Mr. Jefferson

apparently he has some serious drug problems too.

[mvd]

38. Enough with the speculative posts IMO

I don't believe Olivia Newton-John or Carrie Fisher are. Pretty sure about Jodie, but only 90%. I'm going with one I know - Mike Reid - country music writer and former Penn State player. It's nice to know that the Nashville community has accepted him.

[Cleita]

40. None really.

I lived in LA and attended a Catholic high school that catered to daughters of the movie industry. One of John Wayne's daughters was my classmate. The movie town gossip was alive and well passed on down from the producer's, writer's, director's and actor's daughters to the rest of us more ordinary types. We all knew the gay secrets of the movie stars among many other things.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

49. The thought of Danny Kaye and Sir Laurence Olivier

having an affair for many years boggles my mind. Even though both were married, I can easily believe that either one was gay. I just can't imagine them together.

[hyphenate]

51. After working in Entertainment for awhile

There are few surprises.

The ones I've been told who are either gay or bi are:

Robert Wagner and Chris Walken (were supposedly "otherwise engaged" the night Natalie Wood drowned;

Dick Sargent (Darren 2, Bewitched)

Dirk Benedict (Battlestar Galactica and A Team)

Roddy McDowell

Sal Mineo

Charleton Heston (was told he used to go up the Canyon roads and pick up boys) I don't know how much stock I put into this one, though.

Jaye Davidson (the androgynous male who was in the Stargate movie and The Crying Game)

[terrya]

55. Wow..interesting.

Dirk Benedict...I thought he was so gorgeous in "Battlestar Galactica". *sigh*

VERY interesting about RJ and Christopher Walken...that's the first I've ever heard about that.

Terry

[thom1102]

76. Agreed!

yum!!

[CBHagman]

136. Most of those gentlemen are on my list of ...

...People I'm Not Even Slightly Surprised to Learn Are Gay/Bisexual.

Truly. I think Sal Mineo was one of the first Hollywood stars I found out was gay.

And don't get me started on the Danny Kaye/Laurence Olivier thing.

[Bridget Burke]

57. John Travolta

Not from recent gossip--this was before Datalounge!

I knew people involved in the "Urban Cowboy" shoot--here in Texas. He apparently had an affair with a local--a male local.

[Snow]

117. Ouch! He's a scientologist, too. Got some issues, there, I'll bet -eom -

[LTR]

58. Tom Selleck

I've heard rumors.

Does this make him a Log Cabin Repug?

[SCDem]

59. Tracy Chapman

I grew up listening to her. Her CD was one of the first my family had back in the 80's. I love her music and just was kind of caught off guard when one of my friends (gay) said that she was gay. I mean I should have figured it but just as it was our "family" CD that everyone in the house and varying age ranges liked I was surprised. But I think in the 80's there were lots of "gay" artists but no one really made a big deal about it. I mean look at Boy George and the Culture Club, he was obviously gay but I don't remember any big deal about it.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

62. I always thought she was pretty clearly out.

[BR_Parkway]

61. Rush Limbaugh

http://pssht.com/biography/rush_limbaugh.html

I've occasionally wondered what would happen if every openly gay person in America picked one RW fundie who was so loudly protesting gays and gay marriage - and made a Drudge style claim of having had same sex relationship with them.... Talk about a smear campaign.

[sniffa]

64. kevin spacey

is one that shocked at first, but then i went 'duh'.

i'm waiting for john madden to come out.

[lolly]

125. Spacey?

He said in an interview once that he wasn't gay, but he didn't mind the rumor because he got lots of action from women trying to "convert" him???

(Do women really do this?)

[Ratty]

80. How about actors who you were shocked WEREN'T gay?

Vincent Price comes to mind. I'm told Roddy McDowell isn't gay which, if true would be a big shock. Paul Lynde. C'mon Uncle Arthur has just GOT to be gay, right? Um, Tony Randall. Tony Randall?? Straight?!!! My universe is spinning.

[terrya]

83. I wasn't mildly shocked to read JM. J. Bullock was gay.

I wasn't shocked at all, really.

:-)

Terry

[BigMcLargehuge]

91. I shook Vincent Price's hand in 1988

it was a defining moment in my life. He was to speak at the college I attended and I, literally, bumped into his and his small entourage as I walked through the main office.

I must've looked dumbfounded (because I was, his speaking engagement was a surprise) and he extended his hand and said "Good afternoon young man, are you alright?"

I think I blubbered about seeing all of his movies, he was my favorite actor, that my favorite was "The Raven". I shook his hand, he thanked me for saying hello, and his entourage moved him along.

It was awesome. His speech was great too, about literature and drama.

[Samurai_Writer]

84. Not surprised, but here are some hollywood legends...

Judy Garland, Greta Garbo, Marlene Dietrich, Tallulah Bankhead, Barbara Stanwyck, Joan Crawford (bi), and of course, that most famous of all lesbians, Mercedes de Acosta, author of The Well of Loneliness (and lover to Greta and Marlene, among others).

[Ratty]

85. Eddie Murphy

This tidbit I got from a friend in LA who likes to hang out with male prostitutes. Eddie Murphy really likes them male prostys. He has a big foot fetish apparently. Murphy isn't gay but likes to dabble on the other side of the fence for certain things (like my LA friend, actually).

[Zolok]

87. Oh the usuals...Paul Lynde, Liberace...

it is always the dead butch specimens that fool you.
:)
God rest both their souls BTW....

www.chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com

[Screaming Lord Byron]

89. Rick Mercer (Canadian satirist)

Didn't fit my preconception of a gay man. I guess even us supposedly enlightened people fall into that trap sometimes.

[Name removed]

90. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

95. How did you manage to get a name removed in this thread?

[displacedyankeedem]

96. Angelina Jolie

who is bi, as I recall.

[Triple H]

97. I was shocked to find out that Christopher Lowell...

WASN'T gay! I'm serious! He's married and has kids!

[lazarus]

99. Laurence Llewellyn-Bowen from the

British show Changing Rooms is married with kids, as well. I was absolutely floored.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

100. He's English. The laws of sex are different there.

[hyphenate]

119. I thought so, too, at first

But he was just born a few hundred years too late. All the young guys in the Renaissance and other times were very "foppish."

[sarahbellum]

137. so was i!

as well as frank, from trading spaces.

[JVS]

115. NO WAY!!!

[hyphenate]

118. Geez--I thought he was gay, too!!

EOM

[Buns_of_Fire]

101. Wow! EVERYBODY'S gay!

I must admit, though, Rock Hudson came as a bit of a shock when I first found out. Police Commissioner McMillan? Whoa!

[Screaming Lord Byron]

102. Apparently Daniel O'Donnell is married.

To a woman!

[Bill of Rights]

107. I was surprised

about Bernadette Peters. Melissa Manchester. Susanne Suthers and Bette Midler making out.
(I have a friend who was the girl toy of Melissa M and she saw all of this while on tour). She said the nicest person is Madeline Kahn, who is straight.

[lolly]

126. Madeleine Kahn

Is? or was? Didn't she die recently?

She was the singer/comic actress, right?

[Bill of Rights]

108. Natalie Portman

I was very surprised to read that she is sexually attracted to women. She spoke about this. If I wasn't at work, I'd search for the quote.

[mvd]

109. Saw the article - says she's more attracted to men

But she could be bi, I guess.

[TXlib]

110. Betelguese and Rigel

[Westegg]

112. Betelguese and Rigel didn't surprise me...

What shocked me was Alpha Centauri...So close to home!

[TEXASYANKEE]

114. Stop it!

Now I'll never look at Orion's Belt in the same way!! ;-)

[Aristus]

124. What about Altair and Vega?

I hear it's pretty Sirius! :-)

[av8rdave]

113. Pete Townsend

n/t

[tigerbeat]

122. pete's bi n/t

[LTR]

120. Matt Drudge

But it seems to all make sense.

[geniph]

121. I hear Tom Delay and Jerry Falwell go at it hot and heavy

every chance they get. Film at 11.

[tigerbeat]

123. thanks a lot

now i have to scrub my eyes out with salt and dip my monitor in de-scumming agent.

[bigwillq]

127. I heard that Keanu Reeves was

Has anyone heard that? Industry insiders, help me out on this one.
I friend told me that KR and David Geffen have been an item for years.

If KR is gay, I'm going to Hollywood, tracking him down and riding him....hmmm...let's keep it at that.

[thom1102]

128. I have a friend who claims to have slept with him,

however, I also suspect that this friend is a pathelogical liar, based on some of his other claims.

[Butterflies]

135. Awwww rats! There goes another fantasy of mine.

I've wanted him since "The River's Edge".

[tjwash]

129. Raymond Burr, and Douglas Fairbanks

[Rockholm]

130. Matt Dillon, Andrew McCarthy....

[kskiska]

133. Greta Garbo

Aside from the old rumors, while living in L.A. I met an old guy who used to work at MGM. He had lots of stories, including one about Garbo and Marlene Dietrich's trysts at the Chateau Marmont.