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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:24 PM
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I don't understand this. Parents placed a NannyCam to catch their Nanny abusing
their child.

It worked. Story here:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14938393/detail.html

If I even suspected for an instant that someone was mistreating my child, they would be out the door faster than a NY Minute. Why wait around for tragedy to strike? Just to get it on video? :scratches head:
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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:25 PM
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1. Huh. That's a good point.
Your kid is not 'bait'.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:29 PM
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2. I could maybe see having one from the very beginning, but
to place one in your home because your child is acting out strikes me as terribly irresponsible.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:42 PM
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10. I agree... however, the good news is that this is solid evidence and charges result.
Thus she is held accountable legally AND should lose any chance of doing it to another kid.

Simply firing her for suspicion likely would have resulted in neither.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:44 PM
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12. Bingo: Evidence
So she doesn't do it to another child.

BTW no hating on nannies. My sister-in-law's is a major godsend. And my SIL is no desperate housewife either; her day job is curing cancer, so no hatin' on her either.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:44 PM
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13. Yeah, it's a fine line. Having her held legally accountable is
laudable, but I don't think I would be able to leave my child in her care just to obtain the evidence.


How did things go with the mentor? :fingers crossed:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:49 PM
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16. I agree that it's horrifying. And I am glad that this woman will be held accountable.
And I don't know whether I could subject my child to that. However, we really don't know if the parents had REAL suspicion or a "hunch", maybe that's the difference, I just don't know.

Well, a very kick-ass and kind gentleman stepped up, but I am not sure if he/we will work due to some of the post-grad face-to-face requirements. He's completed the application and faxed it over, but I am still working on a back-up plan. The Capt of the local PD and Chief of FD are trying to help me find one of their guys as well. Thank you for keeping your fingers crossed.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:49 PM
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24. Have you ever read Gavin De Becker's The Gift of Fear and Protecting the Gift.
Both books focus on listening to your inner subconscious. IMHO, if they suspected something, they should have canned her and reported her to the agency rather than subjecting their child to more torture.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:29 PM
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3. Holy shit..that lady looks like Kathy Bates!!!
:scared: anyone else see the resemblance there?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:35 PM
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4. You'd fire her and blackmail her for booze money later on I bet
:D
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:37 PM
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5. If I suspected that someone was abusing my child, I'd probably end
up in jail after beating the piss out of her.

I was lucky. I never had to deal with the whole Nanny/Day Care thing, which is really good because I'm uber controlling about my kids' safety and well being.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:39 PM
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6. And yet you still waterboarded them
:rofl:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:39 PM
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7. For their own safety.
:rofl:
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:41 PM
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8. You really should whack nannies with a 2X4. It's the only way to put them down.
:evilgrin:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:42 PM
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9. My thoughts exactly.
:rofl:

:hi:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:48 PM
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14. only if a nanny "misbehaves"
not as a training method.

have you learned nothing???

:spank:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:44 PM
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11. i totally agree, that's crazy
i'm still shaking my head.

:banghead:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:49 PM
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15. So you can prosecute her with irrefutable evidence. n/t
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:55 PM
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17. well, derherrrrr, we know thatttttttt
Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 12:55 PM by CreekDog
but why take the chance that she is gonna abuse your kid again once you are fairly sure she is already doing it.
:eyes:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:08 PM
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18. That's just it. I don't think that they were "fairly sure".
From the article: "The child's parents said they never expected what they saw on the video."



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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:13 PM
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20. ahhhh
but i think i would have tried the cam on a new and better screened nanny.

woulda, coulda, shoulda.

what kind of crazed person physically punishes a 13 month old? egads.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:17 PM
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22. But they did use an agency that is supposed to screen the sitters.
"The parents said they hired Smith from a national online childcare service that specializes in in-home child care -- called www.SitterCity.com."

I agree, this woman did awful stuff. And, instead of placing any blame on these parents, we should be thanking them for helping remove her from this agencies rotation and showing them that their screening process sucks.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:52 PM
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25. That's just it. They suspected something and still put their child in harm's way.
I would have fired her and reported why to the agency rather than go the route they did. JMHO. YMMV.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:10 PM
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19. Because it's not about keeping the kids safe - it's about the royalties from selling the video
to Oprah and FOX news and from all the guest appearances on the Today show and other places.

Firing the abusive nanny only protects the children.

Putting your children at risk and FILMING it - that's worth $MILLIONS.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:14 PM
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21. Or perhaps it was to help A) determine that is WAS happening (or aleve fears) and
B) prosecute the monster if it was

From the article: "And fortunately this family was smart enough to capture these images on video" - Sgt. Jay Baker with the Cherokee County Sheriff's Office

Smart because there's now hard evidence that will protect this family's child and countless others.

Also from the article: "The parents of the boy asked investigators not to release the videotape for fear it may jeopardize their criminal case."

This doesn't mean that they WON'T use it in the future, but at least they are placing priority on the criminal case.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:29 PM
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23. You're right. If I had even the smallest suspicion, the nanny would be gone.
Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 01:30 PM by GloriaSmith
If I decided to go the nanny cam route, I would inform prospective nannies about them during the interview process. The idea of taping people secretly just seems creepy to me. Then again, I can't imagine ever hiring someone to raise my kid for me so what do I know.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:58 PM
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26. I was lucky. I was able to stay home with my kids.
I know everyone doesn't have that ability and has to do everything to ensure the safety of their child, but suspicion on the part of a mom is a very powerful thing. Even if I installed the camera and everything was okey dokey, I would still be uncomfortable with that nanny.
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