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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:29 PM Original message |
"Some things are just God's will" |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. HELPS those who HELP themselves. |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Exactly. I didn't push the point--I think I was too shocked to even |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I'm sure |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 12:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
61. Don't you mean "disassemble?" :) |
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spacelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Now Alice, don't let the Red Queen hear you say that. n/t |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. That statement isn't anywhere in the Bible. |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I don't think anybody said it was in the bible. But it IS true ... |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. I think it was Ben Franklin, but definetly not the Bible. "The meek shall |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. Don't blame God this stupidity is all human n/t |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
72. Yup. Humans who have |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
86. Yeah, did you see that recent article about how did the |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. Religion annihilates critical thinking |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
73. MOST religions do... |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. "Religion is the opiate of the masses." |
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Graf Orlok (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. God's will is to kill people? |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I know what you mean. But, there are many more people out there |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. That's not the Christian God. That's the distorted fundie view. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. It's the dark side of the information explosion |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Another personal story about religion... |
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Pool Hall Ace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:32 PM Original message |
And what is this message that God is trying to send us? |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. The last sentence is very accurate... |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
78. I LOVE |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. SOMETHING is sending us a fuckin' message, and it does relate to |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. You are right, we are getting a message but some have their signals |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. The cultural chasm has been getting REALLY big |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. See, I don't know if I believe in those poll results. I can't. It means |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Those numbers make me want to bang my head against a brick wall |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. And I don't believe it's a conscious message, from an actual "being" |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
66. Agreed. The state we find ourselves in is of our own making--not God's.nt |
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Splatter Phoenix (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
77. Oh, THANK you! |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. I read something interesting, I wish I remembered where. The rapture |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 12:22 AM Response to Reply #35 |
60. Yes, it WAS made up. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. They leave out the good part, though. The AFTER RAPTURE PARTY: |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. It's the ENVIRONMENT. The planet is shrugging us off like a cold. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 02:58 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. You and I are in agreement n/t |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
76. For sure. Fucking neocon |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
74. Shit up to our collective eye-balls, |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. Why does "God" need a "will" ? |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Good point, but since when did religion and logic mix? |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
39. That is exactly what God wants. Life is for learning. I think God is |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. An all powerful and all knowing deity would be passive as hell... |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
16. That's the philosophy of far too many - submit to your rulers, it's "God's |
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dretceterini (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The teachings of Christ |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. That's because |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. That's right. I'd like to point |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. Someone should make a poster |
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
23. I notice it's always God's will when it happens to someone else n/t |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
82. Yup.... nice siggy picture, btw |
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FM Arouet666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
27. Accepting religion is often due to apathy and fear. |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Yes it's easy to be lazy under the cloak of religion--lay back and |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. I wouldn't say most adherents to most religions. Fundies are a |
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Splatter Phoenix (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
81. I wouldn't go that far. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
28. To me it's like a cult. |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. You're right, the thinking is very cult-like. These people are one |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
32. Exactly |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
36. If God can do anything....? |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. You mean like science? |
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dretceterini (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. No, God is the creation |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
37. Let me guess. Your friend is a loser. Her life is shit. n/t |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. No she is not a loser, her life is not shit. She's just like many |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. If her life is NOT shit, then why would she give it up so freely? |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. It's a matter of belief |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. They are, simply, NUTS, and further they are SELFISH. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I don't think they are ALL nuts... |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Clearly, linazelle's friend is NOT one of those. She is one of the others |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I do agree :) n/t |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 12:02 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. There's a fine line between fundie nut jobs and some overly religious |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 12:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. They take the bible for it's literal meaning... |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. She does have two children and many friends. I guess people |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. If that stuff happened to me, I don't think it would make me religious. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 12:15 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. It should really make people more spiritual... |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 12:18 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. The higher being is the collective conscience. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
43. religion makes people insane so that those in power can manipulate them |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
75. Yup. I like to say: |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
49. That's exactly why Marx said religion is the opiate of the people. |
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L.A.dweller (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
56. It is all about power and legitimizing |
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spacelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
62. When my very good longtime friends find Jesus and the Bible to be |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. ROFLMAO... nt |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 03:23 AM Response to Original message |
65. Maybe 9/11 was just God's will? |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. only "some" things are gods will, remember. |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Some "Holier-than-thou" bastard, undoubtedly...nt |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
68. OMFG... Do NOT get me started |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
79. Your friend sounds like my mother. |
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rbajai (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
80. It's a CULT |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
83. I heard a radio preacher |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
84. No, not because it makes them passive and docile |
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u4ic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
85. Why do these people think natural disasters |
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