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Born_a_Democrat (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:20 PM Original message |
Here we go again...My Take on GREENS running in the General Election |
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ThirdWheelLegend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. You lost me at.. |
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Born_a_Democrat (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. you gotta think in relative terms (progressive compared to BUSH) |
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ThirdWheelLegend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. You are exactly right.... |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 11:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
98. Indeed. And if we look at the plots, who are the progressive ones? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. yeah, yeah-- SOS.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Deleted message |
mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. how is "the lessor of two evils..." |
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ThirdWheelLegend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:19 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. haha..nailed it.. |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 11:48 AM Response to Reply #25 |
94. Someone who categorically cannot get elected isn't a choice. |
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ShimokitaJer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 11:55 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Yes, it is a choice |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 04:32 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. Saying so doesn't make it so. |
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ShimokitaJer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 04:46 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Are you even trying to understand what I'm saying? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 05:07 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Too hard to process a reply unless it uses your own words? |
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ShimokitaJer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 05:26 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Actually, yes, it is the Democratic Party I want to change |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 05:47 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Actually, you are the one who is an impediment. |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 12:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Voting for the champion of the status quo doesn't help either |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 04:35 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Two candidates. Two parties. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 01:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. the problem is, so many are so bad at figuring out who the two evils are |
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morgan2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. democrats are generally progressive? |
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Terwilliger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. The Democratic party left is being further and further marginalized |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Progressive? |
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JailBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
7. The Ultimate Answer |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 05:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
41. "some incredible links between Gore and the "Seattle Mafia." |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
8. the logical thing to do |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. Only half of Americans vote, there is plenty of room for |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 11:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
95. Yeah, those two "progressives" sure brought out the vote. |
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DUreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. Here we go again, that would make this a duplicate thread |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. zzzzzzzzz.......... |
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Born_a_Democrat (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yet still NOONE has disputed my argument (green votes help Republicans) |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. my point |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 11:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
96. What exactly is your idea for winning votes? |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
130. Exactly |
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Terwilliger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. you're a realist when it comes to numbers? |
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morgan2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. its a mute point |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:48 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Perhaps because you see lots of bad coming from the GOP candidate winning? |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:07 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Brilliant Observation! |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
73. Actually, I have - but it was yanked |
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jiacinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. Good post |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-03 11:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. the color of the hose |
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jiacinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. And tell me this |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. what they should have done was been a credible opposition... |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. ahhh, but you failed to answer my question |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Dreaming of a magic firetruck and snubbing the hose while the house burns |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 05:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
42. the land of tortured metaphors |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 09:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. and worse yet |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 10:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
86. Then there are those like you |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
26. Nader is now more spectacle than politician or consumer advocate |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
28. If |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. In that case it's an even spread |
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Terwilliger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. the least damage! what wonderful goals |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 01:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. No one who can win will have my values, I've accepted that |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 02:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Good post/points JP |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 05:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. I think only a corporate-sponsored candidate can win |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 12:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
99. Well, there it is. |
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Cat Atomic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
32. Frankly, if it weren't for the Greens, all our candidates would look |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 01:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. such nonsense |
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Cat Atomic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 01:07 AM Original message |
Is it? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
37. The Greens party can't produce results, so it blames the Democrats? |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 10:32 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. No results??? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 05:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I don't blame anyone--but the Greens have little impact on the Dems |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 10:09 AM Response to Reply #37 |
88. The Green Party IS producing results |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
123. I disagree......with a qualifier |
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Kellanved (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 08:05 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. The Weimar Republic had no two-party system |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 12:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
100. What you're ignoring |
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EV1Ltimm (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
35. divide and conquer |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
38. Michael Moore endorsed Nader yet constantly bitches about how... |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 05:21 AM Response to Original message |
40. You want your argument disputed? OK. |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 09:31 AM Response to Reply #40 |
83. Iverson shows a flash of gettingitness |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 09:39 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Your personal comments are inappropriate. |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
44. I know the statistics... |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
45. If this is a friggin "fact" |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
47. Screw it. Vote your conscience. Make Bush come in third. |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
124. I agree with the gist of what you offer |
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kyrasdad (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
48. Greens, Dems, Reps... |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 05:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Are you sure... |
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kyrasdad (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 06:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. yes, I'm sure |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 07:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. (ahem) |
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kyrasdad (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 11:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I am taking the fraud into account... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-03 12:29 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. First, Perot didn't help Clinton win. Second, you can't reconstruct an |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
53. Sure |
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gone2thechase (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
55. Duh. So ban the Green party if the freedom of choice is so bad. |
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Born_a_Democrat (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
56. Still trying to clutter the pure numbers with ideology... |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-03 11:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. You Failed to Respond to Most of the Posts in this Thread |
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Born_a_Democrat (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-03 09:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Here's an answer to your post |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-03 10:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. "Deep down inside I am glad he is doing it." |
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Born_a_Democrat (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:05 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. still dodging the facts...keep voting green...Bush loves you |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 04:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. No clue as to what I was talking about, eh? |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-03 10:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Torn Tents |
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Born_a_Democrat (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:19 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. i voted for Gore ... your point? |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. try though I have |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 10:29 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Great line! |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 05:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
81. I used to think that way... |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 10:21 AM Response to Reply #61 |
89. Anger management much? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 12:20 PM Response to Reply #89 |
103. What's the point of voting for a candidate who can't win? |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 04:59 PM Response to Reply #103 |
112. Diminish the greens intent all you want |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 05:36 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. "The point of voting is not to win . . ." |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 07:25 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. Max, a suggestion |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:06 AM Response to Reply #120 |
128. How the system works |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:17 AM Response to Reply #128 |
131. please address the points I raised |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:34 AM Response to Reply #131 |
134. Done. See post #132. |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 09:18 PM Response to Reply #128 |
135. limited perspective and bad tempers |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 07:49 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. two points |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:32 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. Nicely done ,Welsh Terrier |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:18 AM Response to Reply #121 |
132. The only difference Green voters can ever make |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 06:13 AM Response to Reply #132 |
137. victory by definition |
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FDRrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-03 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
60. If there isn't a liberal in the race... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:20 AM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Deleted message |
Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-03 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
64. How stupid |
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Born_a_Democrat (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 08:12 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Then go ahead and try to turn the facts |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. "Some people just WON'T learn" |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. It's all about being "correct" to you, isnt it, Novak? |
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Born_a_Democrat (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 08:47 AM Response to Reply #74 |
82. blah blah, blah blah, I will ignore facts and call you Novak, blah blah |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 01:23 PM Response to Reply #82 |
106. What facts have you actually presented? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 12:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
104. This doesn't happen to be true. |
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Polemonium (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
65. Yeah.. let's continue to be devisive |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 01:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. Incredible, isnt it! |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
76. Voting Conscience vs. Voting Necessity |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 10:32 AM Response to Reply #76 |
90. It might be said |
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ThirdWheelLegend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 08:39 PM Response to Reply #90 |
122. Eerie similarity... |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 08:06 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. I speak only for myself |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:29 AM Response to Reply #122 |
133. Everyone agrees with me, they just don't know it yet. |
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Ardee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 09:28 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. you live in a dark and sad little world |
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Undemcided (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 05:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
115. You should always vote your conscience. |
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Ficus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
77. This assumes |
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reachout (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 10:45 AM Response to Reply #77 |
91. Two swing groups |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
78. Must be a slow news day. |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-03 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
79. well your first "fact" is bullshit. |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
84. That is so painfully true. |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
87. I wish we had a Parliamentary system. |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
92. Yeah but |
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ShimokitaJer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
93. Why must 97% of the votes go for one of two parties? |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 12:12 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. If it weren't for the Electoral College... |
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ShimokitaJer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 12:29 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Right: That's the way it is |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 04:40 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. How do you propose to change the system |
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ShimokitaJer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 04:52 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. And why should that candidate change the system? |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 06:00 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. This is so comical. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-03 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
119. I think the Green party is great and has |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
129. That's one way to look at it |
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