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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:26 PM Original message |
I'm 54, I seem to remember a time when the Death Penalty was a RW |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. No.... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. You're imagning it for the most part. |
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pilgrimm (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I think you are an exception |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. *snicker* |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I'v never used those words |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Is that when you discovered, much like.... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. That was a pretty despicable personal attack |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. "Personal attack"?? Just asking a question...looks like I hit a nerve.... |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
95. You thought that was a "despicable attack"? |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. That doesn't sound like the evolution you spoke of yesterday.... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. It took a while to get there |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. "I was anti-DP all the way up to the execution of Ted Bundy" |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #44 |
87. Both |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:20 AM Response to Reply #87 |
93. "Twenty years ago, I was more anti-DP than anybody |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #93 |
109. Yep |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
63. How did executing Ted Bundy solve anything? |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:43 AM Response to Reply #63 |
100. Actually His Was Worth More to Investigators Alive |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Not picking a fight |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Here's where I sit |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
39. Certainly some crimes are so heinous |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Probably every person in Ilinois sitting on Death Row |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. you can be so insensitive and naive at times |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. They were completely innocent. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. IMHO, Ryan did the right thing on that issue. Too many questions. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #46 |
85. Yes, probably, only because the cases are currently under review |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. Same system that went fifty fifty is reviewing the cases again. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #62 |
86. Cite a source for your "fifty fifty" figure |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #86 |
102. "On January 31st, 2000, following the release of the thirteenth wrongfully |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:10 AM Response to Reply #41 |
79. you know that "probably" you speak of? it's a mighty BIG if... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:55 AM Response to Reply #79 |
84. No, it's not |
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Don Claybrook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
53. you say you could be convinced to go anti-DP again |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:25 AM Response to Reply #53 |
82. thanks! this is what also drives me. like you, i think about and sometimes |
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Ex Lion Tamer (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:36 AM Response to Reply #53 |
91. Very, very nicely put. |
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Thorandmjolnir (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #53 |
103. Thank you |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
64. That's not justice, that's just vengeance, nothing more. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 01:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
71. How about this guy as a poster child for the anti DP movement? |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:59 PM Response to Reply #71 |
110. That guy didn't face the DP n/t |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:31 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Could you answer my question please? nt |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
94. That's another thing...guns. |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. I am 54. These Right Wingers are not the same as now. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. smile |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. February 1951. I've never seen anything in America like this...... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. here is something that I have often thought about |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. Might rethink "power"? There was "Black Power" "Power to the |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:24 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I was thinking more in terms |
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The Gunslinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's just the times |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. On the DP issue it appears from reading the threads |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. It's been a shocker for me too reading the threads. |
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Caoimhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. I consider it the same |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
7. without a doubt the so-called left has moved to the right... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. thank you |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. dupe |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. What would Jesus do? Forgiveness and atonement? Or death? n/t |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
80. there was a time in this world when those names meant something... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm nearly fifty and have the same recollection. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. License To Kill |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
15. That's what I used to think... that it was a RW position. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
16. You are correct. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. then I'm not crazy! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. No. You are not. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. and you remember of course the time when there was no DP |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Correct. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. my partner has worked for 3 & 1/2 yrs. in a youth lock-down |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Sure .... |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. That's it H20Man! Democrats are about Democratic |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. I agree .... |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #55 |
70. "I am offended by people who are clearly taking delight in the |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
105. We are on the same page ~ it is the delight |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
20. The death penalty is repugnant to civilization. |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
27. yep |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. excellent |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
107. it's not a coincidence, btw |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Please let it be done with ~ I feel like I am watching an old |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
54. same here |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Thank you , maybe there is a silver lining |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 01:52 AM Response to Reply #56 |
72. sorry, didn't find the latest |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
31. There was a ten-year moratorium on executions that ended January 17, 1977 |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
33. IIRC Mike Dukakis has been our only recent nominee to oppose the death |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. So does that mean in order to win we should be for the DP? |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I was only speaking to the fact |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Thanks for the clarification |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:30 AM Response to Reply #33 |
75. Kerry opposed the death penalty |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:58 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. I had forgotten that |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #75 |
104. That makes me feel so much better |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
35. I don't know |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
51. One of the more disturbing facets to state murders has become |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. I agree |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I know what you mean |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. And it is telling that we seem to feel that we have to take a "side". |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:07 AM Response to Reply #66 |
92. That is true... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
58. But G_J....Remember 9/11 CHANGED EVERYTHING! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. It's so creepy that these hateful, hate-filled people are constantly |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:34 AM Response to Reply #58 |
77. It was like this before 9/11 |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:20 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. you are right about that...the pendulum had swung already quite |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
59. Since when is it required that we all agree on all issues? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. nothing is required |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
67. The death penalty teaches us that minorities shouldn't kill whites. |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:31 AM Response to Reply #67 |
83. actually it teaches us that minorities shouldn't kill -- bc too often |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
108. it actually teaches us that racism is alive and well in the |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
73. I'm 42 (soon) and you're not crazy |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
74. You're not crazy |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
76. I've always maintained that it is one of my conservative positions. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
88. I don't really remember. |
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ToeBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
89. You're not imaging it, and there was a time not so long ago... |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
90. It's a bizarro world. |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
96. As a 31 year old, I thought the same thing |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:39 AM Response to Reply #96 |
98. "temporarily satisfy " |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
97. I'm your age G_j and I remember the same thing. I don't believe in |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
99. No, you're not imagining this at all |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
101. I Am Fairly Young |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
106. I also remember when it was a RW cause |
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