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Sandpiper
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:16 PM Original message |
NBA to Players: Stop dressing so Black! |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sorry, but I agree with it. |
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oasis
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. King Henry the Eighth was a gangster? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Do you have a point at all? |
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Matariki
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. oh yeah, everyone should dress like "professional businessmen"? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Now there's a strong argument. |
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Matariki
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. yes i can - i'm an artist. n/t |
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Matariki
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
66. ps - although i was being a bit tongue in cheek in my response |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Come to downtown Washington DC, please. |
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Matariki
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
113. you are missing my point |
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ultraist
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #113 |
152. Basketball stars should STOP dressing like CRIMINALS! |
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malaise
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Fri Oct-21-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #152 |
169. Thank you very much |
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IndyJones
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Thu Oct-20-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #66 |
139. Apparently, the people who pay their contracts are setting the standards. |
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Yupster
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
75. I never wear a suit or tie to work |
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patcox2
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
77. " . . . de umbra asinus." |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
60. They aren't businessmen. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. No, they're employees. |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. They're entertainers |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. It doesn't matter what their point is, does it? |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. The great white father has spoken |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Well, don't tell that to this guy |
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mondo joe
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Thu Oct-20-05 08:16 AM Response to Reply #78 |
122. They are not independent entertainers. They have agreed to a contract |
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CatWoman
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. oh no you didn't!!! |
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muriel_volestrangler
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Fri Oct-21-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
168. Yes, he was, in many ways |
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Apologize for your charge of racism immediately. |
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alcibiades_mystery
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
72. I'll second his charge |
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patcox2
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. Your both wrong. |
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LostinVA
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #83 |
109. Right -- Read "Out of Bounds" by Jeff Benedict |
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KansDem
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Or "Pros and Cons: The Criminals Who Play in the NFL" |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Oh gads |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Can you rebut the other part of my comment? |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
68. They wear the uniform of their employer |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. You seem to think their only work is when they're playing. |
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opiate69
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Thu Oct-20-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #68 |
134. This kind of dress code works just fine for the NHL.. |
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Dorian Gray
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
96. Wearing jewellery isn't the bad example. |
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erpowers
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #96 |
145. Not Why |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:20 AM Response to Reply #145 |
146. It's not the "gangsta" culture that ruined |
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erpowers
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Fri Oct-21-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #146 |
170. Agreed Mostly |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:40 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. I think |
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chalky
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Seriously? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
79. What's the *wink* *wink* for? |
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chalky
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Wed Oct-19-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #79 |
115. Can you say that there's not a single former gangster working for UNICEF? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Shall we delve into the dress codes at those organizations? |
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chalky
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Wed Oct-19-05 05:02 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Let's stick with the topic, shall we? You took umbrage at my quoting |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Thu Oct-20-05 08:00 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. You're way off. |
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chalky
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Thu Oct-20-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #119 |
133. Here I was expecting something all "Crips & Bloods"-like |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Fri Oct-21-05 08:33 AM Response to Reply #133 |
141. Really? You have to get in trouble to officially be a gangster now? |
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chalky
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #141 |
147. So...what? You're saying the Red Hat Society isn't a gang? |
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Roxy66
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Thu Oct-20-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #117 |
137. Swoosh....good point |
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erpowers
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Fri Oct-21-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
144. Wrong |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #144 |
148. I've addressed all of this elsewhere. |
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tatertop
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Give me bling bling or give me death! |
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oasis
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. And NASCAR drivers should quit wearing those tacky Penzoil patches. |
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jmowreader
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Thu Oct-20-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
132. There's a difference |
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Ksec
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. I think |
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donsu
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. if it's not in the player's contracts - they don't have to do it |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yes, they do actually. |
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rinsd
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Yup, the CBA is what matters.... |
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Zynx
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
88. Yes, they do. CBA says Stern can do this - and fine them if they rebel. |
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imouttahere
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't care for the way a lot of people choose to dress... |
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Bethany Rockafella
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree somewhat. |
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donsu
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. who made up the rules of what professional dress is, anyway |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Uptight white professional people |
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qanda
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Exactly! |
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rinsd
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. For rebuttal we go to Marcus Camby..... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Damnit, how is Marcus gonna put food on the table! |
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rinsd
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:39 PM Original message |
Damn...I forgot Spree.....(nt) |
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rinsd
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Self delete (double post) |
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AgadorSparticus
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'd like to see one of the players take it to the white extreme and |
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Ferret Annica
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. This sure isn't the NBA Dennis Rodman knew. |
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AgadorSparticus
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Thu Oct-20-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
138. but you know, rodman was so extreme, he was a caricature. |
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Dorian Gray
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
100. That would be |
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Ksec
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. An NBA team has ten millionaires bouncing balls for a living |
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GreenPartyVoter
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
17. School teams have a dress code so this doesn't surprise me at all. |
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Balbus
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
22. Those poor, suppressed, abused, trodden-upon, multimillionires... |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. So, racism is only bad if it happens to the poor? |
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Ksec
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:40 PM Original message |
Its only racism |
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underpants
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
32. Yes |
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Ksec
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Oh how quickly we make the leap |
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Nothing cheapens true racism |
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Ksec
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Sure it does |
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donsu
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
81. but it's not about dressing professionally, it's about dressing black |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Please define "dressing black" |
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donsu
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Thu Oct-20-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
125. dressing black is in the subject headline |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Thu Oct-20-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. That doesn't tell me tell anything. |
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Zynx
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
98. It's not "dressing black" it's dressing "gangsta" |
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Dorian Gray
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Thank YOU, Zynx. |
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #98 |
111. Exactly -- that's where the pants falling down comes from |
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Wed Oct-19-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #98 |
116. . |
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ariesgem
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Thu Oct-20-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #116 |
131. ditto |
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Dorian Gray
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
103. Oh my! |
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mondo joe
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Thu Oct-20-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
128. I was unaware of a sort of dress style people are born with as |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #128 |
149. That's what I find so ridiculous about this debate. |
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tx_dem41
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #149 |
157. Of course it's racist. |
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mondo joe
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Fri Oct-21-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #149 |
164. I think about Oprah saying she gets complaints she's not "black" |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Ever hear of "the boy who cried wolf"? |
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Yeah I know |
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. You're the one that's implying that only black people wear... |
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
56. Your characterization of a style of dress as "black" |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. You're right |
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Eh..no matter how much they get paid that doesn't mean you own them |
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. This thread wasn't about CEO's making 421 times the average Joe. |
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Yes it is |
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Well, I don't see CEO's on camera so I have no idea what their wearing. |
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. The point about quitting is true |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. owning is far different from demanding professionalism while on the clock |
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. They aren't wearing "what ever they want" |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. What are you talking about? |
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underpants
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Well if I didn't have to work then I could wear anything |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Well, you prove your own point wrong. |
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #67 |
87. How did the scab NFL go over again? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Did you read anything I said about steroids? |
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underpants
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
106. Yes |
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. The scab NFL..... |
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underpants
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. Okay you are right I am wrong |
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rinsd
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Sorry...I realized that came out very rude..... |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. The League's problems were created by Stern |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #58 |
150. If you want your business marketed around funky braids and controversial.. |
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rinsd
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Check the CBA..... |
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SoCalDem
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
27. They pay them millions to play a game, and then complain |
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. See they aren't supposed to go and get all uppity you know |
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rinsd
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. When you spend 80+ games "on the job".... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Good point about the dangerous activities clause. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Once again, they can do whatever they want on their own time. |
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rinsd
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Actually they can't....... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Who signs the contract? |
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rinsd
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. I agree....the situation is different. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
94. It cost Boone almost $5M. |
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Duh...you'd think as Yankee fan I would remember that....(nt) |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Well, I won't hold that against you. |
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tx_dem41
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #97 |
110. Yankee fan?!? |
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rinsd
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Praise from Ceasar! ;-) |
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TallahasseeGrannie
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. But the hierarchy of life |
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mondo joe
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Thu Oct-20-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #37 |
127. It's up to them to decide if they want to agree to the contract |
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FrankBooth
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
36. The minimum NBA salary is close to $1 million per year |
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ronnykmarshall
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
47. Oh boy! |
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Deja Q
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Wed Oct-19-05 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
52. Well, anything to make the players look po' is probably a good thing. |
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BIG Sean
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
57. Its the same in the NHL...and they have about 6 Black players... |
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slybacon9
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
64. This post is fake... |
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Sandpiper
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. And the moral of this story is |
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slybacon9
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. NBA to Black People: Dress like OUR gangstas |
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ultraist
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:05 AM Response to Reply #93 |
154. exactly. white wash everyone's culture. white gangsters are bush et al |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #154 |
160. White wash, eh? |
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Fri Oct-21-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #160 |
162. BWHAHAHA! You are really reaching. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Fri Oct-21-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. Reaching? No, not at all. |
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Fri Oct-21-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. Last I looked, basketball players are athletes, not corp businessmen |
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Fri Oct-21-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #165 |
167. If the NBA pays them to look like businessmen, they're businessmen. |
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #80 |
101. I like the draft night suits myself. Pretty impressive stuff. |
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. They've had some pretty bad ones too |
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
70. Duh, a little too late don't you think |
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
84. The problem with the NBA isn't how the players dress |
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Dorian Gray
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
86. I don't know... |
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Wed Oct-19-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. See post #63 |
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #86 |
156. I'm not black and I take umbrage. It's ridiculous. First, the irony... |
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Tims
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Wed Oct-19-05 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
107. A business has a right and a responsibility |
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Rich Hunt
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Thu Oct-20-05 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
120. still digging, I see |
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mondo joe
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Thu Oct-20-05 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
121. Cry me a river. I've never had a job that didn't have dress guidelines. |
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Thu Oct-20-05 09:38 PM Response to Reply #121 |
140. I agree. I fail to see how this is a big deal. |
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Thu Oct-20-05 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
123. Most NBA players are young, they dress young, there shouldn't be rules |
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Thu Oct-20-05 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
124. Those Poor Millionaires Gotta Wear Something Respectable |
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Chovexani
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Thu Oct-20-05 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
129. Please, for fuck's sake |
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Dorian Gray
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #129 |
151. "These guys don't kow the fundamentals anymore" |
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:59 AM Response to Reply #151 |
161. That's why the women are better players than the men |
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Thu Oct-20-05 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
130. All these pro athletes can cry me a river. |
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Thu Oct-20-05 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
135. Oh fer chrissakes. This isn't racist, and I'm sick of hearing that it is. |
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Thu Oct-20-05 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
136. The disconnect between the NBA and its fans has been |
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Fri Oct-21-05 09:12 AM Response to Reply #136 |
142. The NBA gave up on fundamental basketball and paid the price |
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Fri Oct-21-05 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
143. On the list of things to get incensed about... |
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
153. I don't think "bling" is "black" |
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
155. Stupid |
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
158. Sandpiper, I'm a big NBA fan ... |
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
159. this just seems like another fake issue to reinforce the racial divide... |
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Fri Oct-21-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #159 |
171. "if i were these ball players, i'd just show-up in a dress... |
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Fri Oct-21-05 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
166. You gotta be kidding me... |
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Fri Oct-21-05 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
174. I could care less what these talking racehorses wear |
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