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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:36 PM
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American Women: Look to today and learn your lesson
The Neo-Cons believe our rights are expendable. They believe Democracy does not necessarily apply to us. They would sell us down the river for a few approval points and some good PR.

A woman who votes Republican is like a cow who eats steak.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:38 PM
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1. And all the RW ladies said, "Moo"
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:39 PM
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2. Expendable ... ?
I've come to believe that the RW nuts believe they are undeserved. Bastards!
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:39 PM
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3. *Which* civil rights would Jesus give away? nt.

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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:40 PM
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4. OK, so let's see what the Dems are going to say about this....
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 04:00 PM by Gloria
They should go after it with both barrels. And then tie it into Roberts.
Why should a jerk with a 38% approval who nominates a Luddite get a "pass through"? I expect some outrage from somewhere, or this party is worthless...I say, fight, and test the resolve of those GOPers who need to get reelected.....
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:41 PM
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5. I don't know how much good PR they are going to get out of this
One of the frusterating things about this situation is that there seems to be no good way out; It'd be nice if I had a good alternative - but what I got seems to be A) cut and run (in which case the Iraqi women are on their own) or B) Stick it out; fix what we have broken (in which case, in all likelihood, the Iraqi women are on their own).

Bryant
check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:47 PM
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9. It's not Democracy if half your population is denied their rights
Human and civil. It simply isn't Democracy to deny half of your population their rights. If we hadn't fucked with Iraq then we would not be directly responsible for this deplorable situation. But we did fuck with Iraq and have both directly and indirectly CREATED this situation.

Someone once said, "You broke it, you bought it," The Neo-Cons, having broken it, aren't willing to fix the situation they created. We need to remember this, and we need to remind anyone who forgets: Women are meaningless to the NeoCons.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:50 PM
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11. So you favor the United States staying in Iraq
Until we can get them to accept Democracy, with full legal rights for women? Or possibly leaving but with some other pressure, financial perhaps, to effect this change?

I'm not sure I would disagree with such a tack - I have been leaning more towards "pull the troops out now" lately, but I can't deny that "we broke it we fixed it" still has some appeal.

Bryant
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:00 PM
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13. I think it is naive to believe that Chimpy and the cabal ...
... are not applying "pressure" to insure desired outcomes ... i.e. corporate protections (etc.).

The larger point is that this was very predictable and plans SHOULD have been made (very early on) to provide human rights protections for women.

As always with the Chimp, corporate interests trump all. I'd like the troops to come home, I'd like a lot for the Iraqi people... While we are there we need to do our best to insure all Iraqi's have human rights protections --- PERIOD!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:38 AM
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14. I wasn't convinced till I saw that PERIOD
but now I'm totally convinced.

Actually I agree with you largely, but it's sort of a Time Machine argument - we should have gone back and either not Invaded Iraq at all or done stuff from the beginning to make it clear we weren't going to accept woman being second class citizens.

As for right now; you might be right about them only fighting for corporate rights - wouldn't that be depressing.

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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:42 PM
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6. EET MOR CHIKIN
:) Seriously, though, what a bunch of fucknuts. Misogyny is just the name of the game to RW idiots.
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imperialismispasse Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:44 PM
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7. I'm not a woman but I think they'd sell all of us down the river
for a few more bucks. I get your point though, they gave a lot of lip service to liberating Iraqi women and now this. They lie, lie, lie.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:44 PM
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8. Funny you should bring that up.
I was about to snail mail a letter to my rep suggesting that Congress should make it possible for Iraqi women to gain political asylum in the U.S. immediately if they so choose.

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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:48 PM
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10. But steak-eating cows are so, so individual! So rare!
Don't be like your bra-burning mom-cow and eat grain. Be different! Eat beef! Ann Coulter-cow does it. Why not all of us?

:puke:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:52 PM
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12. I've been worried about this for some time.
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 03:53 PM by Cleita
We really haven't achieved full equality even today and it would be easy to get thrown back to the fifties in no time. We really need to start working to get our political strength up to the half of the population that we are. This means we really should have twenty-five senators who are women. Half the House should be women. Half the White House administration should be women. Half the Supreme Court should be women. Of course the majority would be Democrats because Republicans really don't like that many women in their ranks.
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:34 AM
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15. It's not just the neocons
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 08:35 AM by Southpaw Bookworm
Look back to some of the post-election threads here that blamed Kerry's loss on uppity womenfolk and gays, who apparently just should have shut up about equal rights and discrimination.
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