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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:18 PM
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OKC case now open again, bombing documents ordered turned over to judge
What's up with this?? They can't seem to get the balls to investigate crap under shrub's regime, yet the FBI now says that they are "currently investigating" the OKC bombing?


http://mccurtain.com/articles/2005/08/18/top_story/top001.txt

A U.S. District Court judge in Salt Lake City, Utah, has ordered the Oklahoma City FBI office to turn over unredacted copies of all documents currently at issue in a Freedom of Information (FOIA) lawsuit involving additional evidence and the names of additional conspirators in the Oklahoma City bombing case.


Contacted about whether the agency would comply with the order or appeal it, FBI Special Agent Gary Johnson made a startling announcement. After declining to comment on the civil matters involved in the Trentadue suit, Johnson said the FBI was currently investigating the April 19, 1995, bombing.] In the past, Johnson has told the media that the FBI was standing by its original investigation. "It was the most experienced and thorough in our history," he said.

In an order dated Aug. 16, U.S. District Judge Dale A. Kimball directed the parties to appear before him on Oct. 12 to present additional arguments on whether the FBI is entitled to continue withholding evidence it may have of a wider conspiracy in the matter and much more.

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Trentadue's litigation thus far has uncovered links between McVeigh and several subjects that frequented Elohim City, a paramilitary training camp in eastern Oklahoma. For a decade since the bombing, senior FBI agents and lawyers for the U.S. Department of Justice have argued that they never had any evidence that persons at Elohim City could be involved with McVeigh or the Oklahoma bombing.

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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:20 PM
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1. Sadaam did it!
Or Clinton.

:puke:


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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:10 PM
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6. Or Iran! eom
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:28 PM
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2. Good
Hopefully we can get a little closer to the truth about OKC, though I'm not expecting much.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:35 PM
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3. Of course, the prime witness is conveniently gone...
At least primitives can feel some kind of sweet revenge, but now we'll never know what he might have said someday...
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:35 PM
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4. Even Tim McVeigh's attorney, Stephen Jones, still says that
Tim did not act alone. Mr. Jones, was a former candidate for congress (R).

The problem appears to be that the FBI had people working inside this group (which ususually means exciting people into doing things they might not otherwise do)that McVeigh was involved with, the FBI appears to have murdered Trentadue because of a case of mistaken identity, this group was involved in gun shows and weapon sales to finance domestic activities and the FBI has continued to lie about their prominent role in the bombing/mess.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:06 PM
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5. The paper's article about Elohim City "paid confidential informant"
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 05:27 PM by rainbow4321
This may have all been posted/discussed on DU already, but this article was dated July 2005...may be a :tinfoilhat: kind of thing...


http://www.mccurtain.com/articles/2005/07/15/top_story/news001.txt

Readers may recall that this newspaper published a series of articles beginning in the spring of 1997 detailing its interviews with ATF informant Carol E. Howe.

Howe, a college student and former Houston, Texas, debutante, was recruited by the Tulsa office of the ATF in the late summer of 1994. Howe accepted employment with the agency after passing a polygraph examination. As a paid confidential informant, her assignment was to infiltrate the neo-Nazi movement in eastern Oklahoma.

Howe's reports were sent to the Dallas regional office and then forwarded to Washington, D.C. Marked sensitive-confidential, her identity was simply CI-183. The Howe file clearly indicates a violent plot at Elohim City n a plot that included "(M)ass shootings and bombings of government installations." And the person said to be urging the killings was Strassmeir.

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Shortly after the DOJ learned that Howe had begun giving this newspaper interviews about the plot, she was indicted in Tulsa federal court on conspiracy to make bomb threats and possession of an unregistered destructive device. However, it took the jury only a short time to find her innocent of all charges. A member of that jury told this newspaper they were handed the case at nearly 5 pm on Friday.


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