In a message dated 8/17/2005 12:41:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
Tolerance from a liberal. Imagine that?
You don’t know me and you don’t know what I have done.
Stop hating freedom!
On 8/17/05 3:38 PM, ******* wrote:
Neither do you, but unless you are the proud owner of a DD-214 you are a chickenhawk, here is the definition of a chikenhawk those who support war, any war, as long as they don't have to do the actual fighting.
You are of military age,. You STILL believe there are WMDs, never mind even President Bush has said otherwise.
Here is something you need to do, either put up or shut up, and you also NEED to widen your horizons and READ the PNAC papers. then go read the Patriot Act, after that read the Bill of Rights.
But the first thing you have to do is put up or shut up... running for Congress so you can keep this country on this route of big corporations reminiscent of the big baron era where the poor die in colonial wars is not exactly something to be admired for.
So go. no run to either the army recruiter or the marine recruiter and ASK for LINE INFANTRY duty.
Oh and here is what other REAL Americans have said about dissent... I guess they are not tolerant either
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security
Benjamin Franklin
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
President Theodore Roosevelt
Quotes from History
"The constitution vests the power of declaring war in Congress; therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they shall have deliberated upon the subject and authorized such a measure." - George Washington, 1793
"Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war." - President John Adams
"Considering that Congress alone is constitutionally invested with the power of changing our condition from peace to war, I have thought it my duty to await their authority for using force in any degree which could be avoided." - Thomas Jefferson - Message to Congress, 1805
". . . The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature . . . the executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war." - James Madison , 1793
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
"The President is to be commander-in-chief of the army and navy of the United States. . . . It would amount to nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces, as first General and Admiral of the Confederacy; while that of the British king extends to the declaring of war and the raising and regulating of fleets and armies, -- all of which by the Constitution under consideration, would appertain to the legislature." - Alexander Hamilton - The Federalist
"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right." - Thomas Paine
"Corporations have been enthroned ... An era of corruption in high places will follow and the money power will endeavor to prolong its reign by working on the prejudices of the people ... until wealth is aggregated in a few hands ... and the Republic is destroyed." - Abraham Lincoln, 1865
"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." - Mark Twain
"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country." - Theodore Roosevelt