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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:29 PM
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I hate to say it but...
... the ultimate undoing of George W. Bush and the Repugs may be due to the skyrocketing gas prices, and not the 1001 other far more serious reasons (take your pick) that they really should be brought down for.

Oh the irony... oilmen ultimately defeated by ... oil.


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SixStrings Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:00 PM
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1. Nope...

Oilmen raking in untold profits will not bring anyone down. This has been in the works for almost a generation. Can you not see the connection between the automakers marketing these giant SUV's for years now and the spiralling cost of fuel? Just a coincidence? I think not.
And, really, after reaping $$billions$$ in oil profits for yrs., do you really think it would bother any filthy rich capitalists if whatever gov't they've bought and paid for at the time is 'brought down?'. This is one giant cycle - republicans, dem's they are all the same - they all answer to the almighty dollar.


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:03 PM
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2. They are buying up alternative enegery tech too, so that when the oil
runs out they can still gouge us for $$.

But first, they gotta milk us over the oil.
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:20 PM
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4. So you're suggesting...
... that only "filthy rich capitalists" get to vote?

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SixStrings Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:18 PM
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14. As long as people hold onto...

this preconcieved, manufactured ideal that your vote counts, the longer it will take for people to wake up and realize that all of these politicians are out for one thing - $$$.
Go ahead, vote the repukes out in 2006 & 2008 - does anyone actually believe things will change? Look at your dem leaders - They should be shouting from the rooftops about these '1001' other crimes this administration is currently embroiled in. What do you hear, what do you see? I see Hilary Clinton fighting sex in video games. I never hear a thing from John Kerry - WHY? All smoke and mirrors people, all the little scenery that distracts and enables a criminal empire to continue raping and pillaging your country and the world for profits.
If any of your so-called saviour Democratic leaders had 1% of the courage, integrity and spirit of Cindy Sheehan, than maybe, just maybe I would share your optimism.

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:00 PM
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21. Agree with you a 100%!
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 06:06 PM by TheGoldenRule
Although Conyers is a good guy...maybe the only one...

p.s. Welcome to DU! :hi:
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:50 PM
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13. Suck it dry and burn it down, the neocon plan for America.
Watch America's assets disappear.

Time to go back and read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged". The wealthy industrialists are gods you know. Capitalists give, and capitalists taketh away, so best not to question their motives. Insist they take responsibility for their destructive acts & they'll pull the plug permanently, just to teach the thankless masses a lesson.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:51 AM
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28. "republicans, dem's they are all the same "
You got that right. I think the Democrats are the lesser of the two evils. And it certainly would be better if the Democrats controlled Congress now; they wouldn't rubber-stamp everything Bush wants. Who knows, he might even be impeached.

But both major parties belong to Big Business and that's who they answer to.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:10 PM
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3. I grew up in an oil producing state - what I know about oilmen
is that they are ethically challenged (to put it mildly)and some would just call them crooks and liars. They have no boundaries when it comes to getting their way. When this country decided to hire two oilmen to run it I knew we were in for something really, really different. It is not oil that is bringing them down - it is greed.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:34 PM
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8. What exactly is an oil man?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:49 PM
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11. It's another word for theif. eom
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:33 PM
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15. So i take it from your answer
You don't have a clue?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:49 PM
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16. You are from Texas - so I am certain your question was not
serious.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:58 PM
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18. Still no answer, huh, figured as much.
Who do you think owns most of the oil in the US?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:49 PM
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19. Farmers and ranchers. eom
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:49 AM
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26. Thank you for your patience, good answer.
I apologize for my sarcasm, it was uncalled for.
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SixStrings Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:42 PM
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23. Spell it out for ya...

Sorry to be so vague...instead of saying something along the lines of "war profiteering, profit gouging, unethical, lying, do/say anything to get a nation to war, corrupt, silver-spooned, blue blooded, elitist corporate thugs", I used the term 'oilman'. Is it not implied? Were some honest 'oilmen' actually offended?
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:46 AM
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25. If you don't know what an oil man is, just say so.
I know hundreds of people in the business here locally, and none match your description. Theres 37 oil producing states, with millions of people employed in, Drilling,Production,Construction,Distribution, surely you can come up with a less than sarcastic answer, heaven forbid you actually educate yourself a little.
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SixStrings Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:10 AM
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29. Geez, give it a rest.

Sorry if I offended you. You didn't actually think we meant the entire industry did you? It seems everyone eles understood the meaning. Think of people like the ENRON exec's, scumbags like that. That's the kind of people we are talkng about - people with too much power. Not the people indirectly employed by the industry itself. Got it now?
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:35 AM
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30. Got it now?
Yes i believe you do.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:22 PM
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5. At this point i don't what it is that brings them down just so long as
go.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:31 PM
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6. Sorry for being a downer
I hope you're right, but my concern is that a fascist regime is strengthened the more it opposes the will of the people. In the past, the people have been able to bring fascists down, but in these modern times I fear they have enough devices of control to have their way forever.

You see all of Bushco's numerous attacks on America have been the way they show their authority over us, and the way they remind us of how powerless we are to stop them.
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:33 PM
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7. The Important Thing Is That He's Going To Be Undone
"In the end, all dictators are destroyed by the enemies they create"

It's been proven throughout history, tyrants who oppress their people are in the end deafeted by them.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:44 PM
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9. I don't share your optimism
These fascists have technology and tacitcs at their disposal they never had in the past. The media controls the thinking of the weak minded, and the government has weapons and military and police that the public could never match. Voting is rigged, and we have no way to protest because most of us are indentured to corporation(s) or else we lose our homes. In addition, these fascists have means and methods of controling the masses that probably can't even be imagined.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:06 PM
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17. So THAT is what happened to Stalin.

Here I thought he lived to a ripe old age dying of natural causes when it was actually his enemies who brought him down.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:47 PM
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10. Bush and Cheney? OILMEN first and foremost!!
they couldn't care less about how many get dead in Iraq, Bush said after the election, "The people of america have spoken" Bush the war President Iran is going to be interesting.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:50 PM
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12. wish I could share your optimism
"ultimate undoing"?

recent poll shows 90 of MEthuglicans still support these felons

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:56 PM
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20. Sounds like JUSTICE to me.
:applause: :applause: :applause:

:woohoo:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:22 PM
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22. Karma
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:48 PM
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24. I agree with you. People here are freaking out!
Its $3.00 a gallon in San Diego in places, and folks are NOT happy.

Wish I had some W 04 stickers to put on gas pumps.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:51 AM
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27. Karmic homeopathy
The cure is found in a little dose of what ails ye.
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