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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:00 AM
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Question About Sheehan's Marriage
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:02 AM by sparosnare
CNN reported this morning that Cindy's marriage has broken-up over her actions and has estranged family members. They then showed a snippet of Cindy explaining that her in-laws are not supportive. The whole story was not shown.

When I heard the part about her marriage, I was surprised. Did her marriage break up over going to Crawford? Is this true? If it isn't, CNN is engaging in a smear campaign.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:02 AM
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1. Yesterday she said her husband and children support her, and he
disagrees with his sister and parents.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:02 AM
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2. Her husband will be responding to the letter.
She has said that they have had problems ever since the death of their son.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:03 AM
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4. Well, of course they have! How many marriages do not have problems
after the death of a child?

This crap is just more "manufactured news" to fill up space.

Redstone
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:45 AM
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26. Turn it around.
The fact that so many marriages break up after the death of a child is one more price being paid by the people.

The un-named relatives who do not agree with the Sheehans can go piss up a rope, they are not the issue.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:27 AM
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34. You're right; those relatives are vultures.
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 11:27 AM by Redstone
We're on the same side on this issue, even though I think you may have misunderstood my message.

And yes, you're right--the toll on marriages is one more mark on the hideous THING that lives where bushyboy's soul would be if he had one.

Redstone
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:03 AM
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3. Not Relevant.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:04 AM
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5. No it isn't - BUT
it's an example of CNN trying to paint Cindy in a negative light. Why even mention her marriage?
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:11 AM
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14. It's part of the rightwing's respect for families...
...like in the Schiavo incident, they love to fuel and exascerbate conflicts within families in order to further their rightwing policies and/or muddy potential scrutiny of just how deeply destructive those policies are for decent Americans.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:32 AM
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22. Typical Karl Rove-Joe Corsi paint job
Like John McCain went crazy

Like Max Cleland's wounds were self inflicted

Like John Kerry's wounds were self inflicted and he was court-martialed
    and the Photoshop job of the Jane Fonda picture

But then we have Chambliss Saxbe's (or Saxbe Chambliss's) war wounds

We have Rush Limbaugh's war wounds (polynodal cyst)

Karl Rove's War wounds

BUSH LIES - PEOPLE DIE
ROVE LIES - REPUKES WIN AND THE KILLING GOES ON
FAUX-O'REILLY LIE - REPUKES WIN AND THE KILLING GOES ON
CHENY LIES - REPUKES WIN AND PEOPLE DIE - CIA AGENTS' COVERS GET BLOWN

THE GOP SPIN MACHINE


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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:11 AM
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16. It really isn't
This "war" has torn asunder many military families from their extended relatives(who, btw, don't understand and never will). People react differently to the grief of a loved one dying in war...some will seek the truth while others will stubbornly cling to idealized notions of America.

I can explain 'til I am blue in the face how it feels to get a 3 AM phone call while your husband is in Iraq.. and even though my family make the right noises, they'll never truly understand until they live through it.

How Ms Sheehan's extended relatives feel has no bearing on how Ms Sheehan feels. What they think, simply put, does not matter...... and it's because the truth has not been brought home to them in such a cruel and senseless manner.







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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:25 AM
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20. Ms. Solly,
So good to see your name pop up on my screen. Your words of wisdom and heart felt knowledge never fail to provoke deep emotions within me.

Once again you bring to us what most of us pray we never have to personally experience. You inform us so well as to what Ms. Sheehan has experienced, and give us light into what motivates and guides her. May your words be read far and wide.

Peace be with you, dear Lady.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:35 AM
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25. Gosh. Thank you.
:blush:

:hug:
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:00 AM
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32. Thank you, Ms. Solly
For taking the time to inform and educate us as to how it feels to be a wife in such situations. My own mother was a veteran's wife and only now can I begin to imagine the moments she endured.

Peace.
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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:04 AM
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6. do not think its true
I thought I heard Cindy say that her marriage had trouble when they lost their son. I belong to several grief organizations for child loss, having lost a child of my own and I know that to be true. The loss of a child can break up a marriage just due to the shear weight of the grief and the loss. Cindy said her husband supports what she is doing in Crawford. I do believe that CNN is in fact engaging in a smear campaign. This is so low, even for them.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:05 AM
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7. SO WHAT?
None of this changes any thing about her son's death...or the public cowardice and dishonesty of pResident Weakenstupid.

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:06 AM
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8. Her husband and other children support her. CNN, as usual
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:07 AM by ET Awful
is spinning their asses off trying to kiss shrub bootie. CNN apparently has a problem recognizing the difference between "husband" and "in-laws."

They aren't the same thing.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:09 AM
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13. That's what was so misleading -
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:10 AM by sparosnare
the reporter conveniently inserted "marriage break-up" in the same sentence as problems with family members. The clip of Cindy mentioned her in-laws, nothing about her marriage or children. :mad:

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KarenS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:07 AM
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9. this is so outrageous,,,, can the M$M be any more blatant?? n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:08 AM
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10. if cindy were a man -- would they portray him
like this?

no they are trying -- in a fairly obvious way -- to ''feminize'' her protest.

to show her as a ''distraught female'' -- weak.

this is to be rejected as strongly as possible.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:14 AM
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19. Just a distraction from the REAL weakling.
CNN sucks.

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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:00 AM
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33. Yeah... SCREW CNN!
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 10:01 AM by Flubadubya
God I am so sick of right wing media hype and bullshit. CNN is getting totally unwatchable.

You should have heard Blitzer take a jab at President Clinton yesterday. The idiot told our last elected President, "I am a newsman, it is my job to MAKE the news, it is your job to avoid it." Beside the fact that his job is NOT to make the news, but rather to report it, he was really short and snippy with the comment. You could tell he derived great relish and glee from getting the opportunity to snipe at Bill. :grr::mad::puke:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:08 AM
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11. Her Marriage is none of my business
All about changing the subject. Mike Moore is another
example.

Classic Rove Distract and Attack
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:09 AM
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12. what does any of that matter?
what does that have to do with the death of her son, who was killed because of a LIE?

what does that have to do with how she feels, and what she is trying to highlight, the insanity of this war?

this is just another swift puke ad

remember when cnn indicated that they were going to try and change their focus to less gossip, and more news?

They are the same whores they have been since turner left

screw the MSM in this country

Haven't watched them since november 2004, and don't plan to. I get more news from international sources, business wires, bloomberg, daily show, and fstv.
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:11 AM
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15. i've read that they are separated...not "broken-up"
marriages tend to suffer after the death of a child.

Basically, this appears to be an untrue account of the facts. CNN should not have reported it.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:32 AM
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23. yes, I read the same - separated. Cindy said yesterday her husband will be
writing in response to his sister putting out the anti-Cindy blather. Cindy also said they talked by phone and he said he has always agreed with her philosophically ...

What is so refreshing (FINALLY!) and gives people such hope and strength is that in Cindy Sheehan, we have a person who not only speaks (and writes!) truth to power but does it

  • ad lib
  • in any situation
  • in response to any crap the media throws at her and corrects them on the spot if necessary
  • all throughout the day and night (giving so many interviews we almost lose count)
  • without cracking up emotionally or in anger
  • standing in a field of fire ants without flinching (yesterday, while talking to Ron Reagan Jr).
  • magically, able to maintain a consistent message and draw fellow Americans like a magnet
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:48 AM
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27. Very well said!
She's graceful, bold and intense. It's really amazing!
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:12 AM
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Here is a snippet from a story dated May 27 2005
"Patrick Sheehan, Cindy Sheehan husband, supports his wife in her activism, he participates in some events and drives with Cindy when he is not working as a sales representative. He spoke about the toll this work is taking in the family. “If she is not away traveling or speaking, she is home with her laptop, watching news, or talking on the phone…This is important, we try to continue to support her.”"


http://sf.indymedia.org/print.php?id=1715083
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:26 AM
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21. This needs to be sent to CNN, in multiple copies
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:12 AM
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17. How is her marriage anyone's business?
Jesus! Anything to smear her! I am sick of this crap from the Corporate Owned media whores.
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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:14 AM
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18. Personal Matter
The status of Cindy marriage has nothing to do at all with the real issue at hand...
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:35 AM
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24. Before too long, they'll be called her a drug addict and child molester
It's all part of the process.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:48 AM
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28. i don't think its anyones business..n/t
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:53 AM
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29. I can't imagine anyone's marriage not being affected by the death
of a child. My SIL ripped into my husband over the death of their mother because she thought he wasn't grieving 'properly'. Death affects people differently, they grieve differently, and I would imagine that parents grieving their child would be so distraught as to be unable to put a lot of effort into their marriage.

I don't think the opinions of those relatives matters even a lick. A grieving mom trumps all.

My dad, who will be in Heaven 1 year tomorrow, always said 'it is not the natural order, parents aren't supposed to bury their children'.

I can't imagine having the strength this woman has in the face of what she has lost.

Fuck those relatives. They are shit to publicize a message supporting that POS.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:55 AM
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30. Garbage.
Cindy said on Keith Olbermann's show last night that she talked to her husband yesterday and he assured her he had nothing to do with that letter from his family.

They didn't sound "estranged" to me - other than he's probably WORKING to support his family and can't be out there with her. Big Whoop.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:59 AM
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31. FUCK CNN
HOW ABOUT WE START ORGANIZING MASS PROTESTS OUTSIDE THEIR HEADQUARTERS???

IM SO SICK OF THIS CRAP!! :grr:
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