I'm listening to Randi Rhodes and just heard that Valerie Plames

[whistle]

....CIA undercover company was closing in on the terrorists and who was financing Osoma Bin Laden. It was the Saudis.....Bush's bankrupt oil company was bailed out by the same Saudis. So, by outing Plame, the WH got two for one, closed down her company protecting their oil assets and interests and shut down Joe Wilson, so the Iraq War could move forward. Wow!

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Whoa, if that is true that is some serious stuff. Hope Fitz has all the

details he needs on that.

[applegrove]

2. That is really serious.

[brettdale]

3. Kick

Kick

[LuCifer]

4. that explains it then...

...those goddamn motherFUCKERS! Is there ANY doubt that BushCo MUST all go to jail now?!!??!?!?!?!

Lu

[FreedomAngel82]

17. Maybe this is what

Fitzegerald is going after? :shrug:

[me b zola]

32. I tend to think so

I tend to think that when he (Fitz) said that Rove wasn't the "target" of the investigation, he may be talking about Cheney or another member of the Cabinet, but then again, he may be speaking about the larger conspiricy.

[madeline_con]

60. Right... a poster said their dad thinks...

Fitz is after bigger fish, someone higher up. Could be...

[nashville_brook]

85. i've thought cheney was behind this from the beginning

it's a myth that rove runs things. he's a message-maker. an image-maker. it's not his job to make policy and all the talk that that's what he does, imo, is cover.

[kliljedahl]

39. Do not pass go, do not collect 300 billion dollars.

Keith’s Barbeque Central

[tridim]

5. BushCo cares more about the Saudi Royal Family

than they do about the security of America and it's people.

IT'S FUCKING TREASON!

[TahitiNut]

6. Yes... that could be just ONE of the reasons for blowing her cover.

The corruption is staggering. It's for sure that the threat posed by Plame was sufficient to motivate something as heavy-handed and ham-handed as what they did. Apparently, Plame knows about small airplanes ... and may have certain 'defenses' that precludes other neutralization approaches the PNAC/OSP/Rove/Neocon cabal likes to use. The 'collateral damage' of blowing the front company's cover could indeed be the real target of the leak.

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. It only makes sense

that there is way more to this story than what we are told.

[stellanoir]

8. This in a nutshell was their

motivation for tormenting and discrediting two totally faithful public servants.

It's nothing short of completely despicable and totally reprehensible.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

9. Do you know where she had the info from. I am searching her site for it.

[tjdee]

11. Me too. Seems pretty irresponsible to say that and then

have nothing to back it up....but Randi wouldn't just give out info for no reason...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

26. No, she did say earlier and I didn't catch it. She was reading directly

from an article that cited those claims.

She started out saying something that has been overlooked.

Novak didn't only out Plame, but a couple of weeks later outted her front company and everyone around the globe that worked for them.

[tjdee]

28. Thank you for that information...

And I see Brklyn Liberal has linked to the article below.

Thanks for the clarification!

[tjdee]

10. If that is true, say hi to President Hastert:

[WolverineDG]

14. don't worry

if that happens, then folks will still be highly pissed off & he'll have to deal with speaker pelosi com 2007.....

dg

edited to include date of next election...

[Aviation Pro]

18. Which means....

...defacto President DeLay, which means defacto President Ex-41.

[sasquatch]

19. Will he still have Tom Delay's hand up his ass?

:D

[me b zola]

36. If the entire cabal is exposed & removed

the rethuglicans will be so weakened that I am not overly worried. Not to mention that they will be under such scrutiny that the first sign of hubris may well send them packing as well

Anyway, these are my hopes, and a girl's gotta have hope :D

[electropop]

90. That's what I think.

The caretaker govt will be unable to pull more of this crap, will just coast along. In '07, we'll have the House and Senate back on America's side, and things will start to ease up. By the time President Boxer comes in, the country will be staggering back to its feet.

[magnolia]

38. Let's drag this out to 2006...

...so we can have President Pelosi!

[suziedemocrat]

54. President Pelosi!!!!! Wouldn't that be too terrific for words!! eom

[frictionlessO]

57. Oh I think this asswipe stands no chance against a Boxer/Conyers style

team. This country is one thing above all else when gauging our national moodswings, we are reactionary.






..... well one can hope.

[electropop]

91. Only a truly tough team like Boxer/Conyers

stands a chance in this bare-knuckle climate. They don't give a damn what pukes think, so they are perfectly happy to tell the truth.

[Algomas]

93. I would love to see that ticket, but...

Do you really think the morons who voted this bunch of gangsters into office would go for a black/female ticket??

[frictionlessO]

95. Nope not at all! It'll be the apathetic 40% that didnt vote at all.

Thats my hope... you stay away from my hope now ya here?!

lol...

[electropop]

97. First, the current regime was not voted in, they stole it.

Second, many people couldn't see much difference between Bush and Kerry. Both were dead wrong on the most important issue of our time: the war. Kerry was so mealy-mouthed he seldom had the guts to loudly take the exact opposite position from Bushitler. If we get a genuine and brave liberal as our candidate, the vast majority (60% at this point) who hate Bush will have a real alternative to vote for, and maybe even overcome the pukes' election stealing machine.

[PATRICK]

12. Explains a lot

since the nexus of interests makes such actions downright compelling and self-justified for these guys.

A personal snit would be enough. A lesson would be enough. But serving a bunch of nefarious interests makes the decision inevitable and seemingly "righteous".

On edit. I have been elsewhere trying to point out how simpleminded some single issues and interpretations are regarding to seeing the unified, consistent agenda thrusts of this administration. Occasionally, Dem leaders pick apart the regime one faux pas at a time and don't see the inexorable unified march and the malice aforethought of it all.

And if some one in the WH or GOP is sunk by one issue that would satisfy nervous Dems seeking some leverage against the national clouded mind. Yet it is not enough by a long shot.

[I Have A Dream]

59. Yeah, as soon as we point things like this out, we start getting...

labeled "conspiracy theorists", which makes most people totally stop listening to what we're saying.

On edit: The Right is absolutely amazing at framing things. We have to find a way to get around their ability to frame things in such a way that they're able to close down our arguments.

[galloglas]

65. We're Conspiracy Theorists??

"The Right is absolutely amazing at framing things."

Maybe. But they are also "Conspiracy Challenged!"

[I Have A Dream]

67. I think that their ability to frame things is one of their biggest...

strengths. They don't have much beyond that, in my opinion.

[galloglas]

72. You're right, of course.

But, to Hell with them!

If the Democrats had not been so enamored of "moving to the center" over the years to dull the sharp edge of GOP "American Values" demagoguery, "framing" would not be such an issue.

The GOP has to use "framing" to make BS sound like it makes sense.

If the Dems had remained true to their Progressive roots of 100 years ago they could, as Harry Truman said, "Give them Hell ? I just told the truth and they thought it was Hell !!"

A couple of examples might help.

Prof. Lakoff was recently asked how to bring "depleted uranium" to the higher profile it deserves, being the menace it is to both Iraqis and American troops. He replied, "Stop calling it a Republican name. Start calling it what it is... a "radioactive weapon" (non-nuclear, but "radioactive").

On one list the question came up "How?".

The answer is "never use the phrase DU" (that would be Ducks Unlimited). Always say, "radioactive munitions and weaponry". And then never let the words fall from your lips again. Our fellow travellers will soon enough understand the "reframing" and pick up on it and use it themselves. Soon, only the GOP (and the military) will be using DU.

Then, when the issue comes up with antagonists who insist on using "DU", give them Hell by making them "tell the truth". And the truth is "depleted" means it is still 88% as radioactive as was in the beginning. The fiercest argument you can get from those people is "No it's not! It's only 60% as radioactive!!"

With that answer, you win. Hands down.

One more. "What happened to Fallujah ??"

The GOP and warmongers will say that the Marines recaptured Fallujah and pacified it in November, 2004. "Oh, yeah?? Show me the pictures!" And if they can produce any, you win again.

Simply because the way the US "pacified" it was by fire-bombing it, much like we did Dresden in WWII. Except in Fallujah, it was up close and dirty. Not the high altitude, impersonal incineration of bodies of WWII.

If they call you a liar, show them the closeup footage of Fallujans, running from their Mosques with their flesh burning off in chunks.

"Insurgents! Terrorists!" they may scream at you.

"Four year old terrorists? Seventy year old insurgents??"

You will be doing Harry Truman's bidding. Telling the truth and making them think it is Hell. For the truth is, the US violates the Geneva Convention every day by using MK-77 (think napalm on anabolic steroids) on civilians in "free-fire" zones.

The US military command is guilty of war crimes. Daily. And in Fallujah, we reduced a city of a quarter of a million people to relative cinders. And much of the population with it.

It is time we stop being polite to these Fascist bastards and get right in their faces. Start calling things for what they are, not euphemisms. Start noticing, and bitching loudly, about the elephant in the room (machine vote fraud and election theft). We must stop pussyfooting around like the centrist DLC and call spades what they are... spades!

One last one, as it may soon be needed.

Karl Rove is not a "leaker", not a "whistle-blower", not "helping a reporter get the story right."
He is a "Traitorous Bastard" and, by compromising Valerie Plame's undercover intelligence network, resulting in the deaths of her agents, he is a "Murderer by Proxy".

Let the WH or the MSM frame the legalities any way they want. It still makes Rove a "Traitor and Murderer by proxy". Never give those bastards a break. You can be sure they will never give you one.

[I Have A Dream]

78. Thanks, galloglas; I agree 100%!

I've recently started using the term "corporate media" rather than "mainstream media", which more correctly defines the truth of the situation.

I think that Howard Dean is our best chance of accomplishing what you state. He certainly doesn't let anyone cow him!

[electropop]

92. This post needs to be its own topic.

Well put.

A couple of my own:

"No child left behind" -> "No child left unharmed"
"Clear skies initiative" -> "Brown skies initiative"
"Healthy forests initiative" -> "Treeless forests initiative"
"Personal accounts" -> "Corporatized Social Security"
"Spreading democracy" -> "Spread 'em, Mohammed"

[Peace Patriot]

87. They wouldn't have any ability to "frame" things if the news monopolies

were not giving them a big trumpet with which to foist their MINORITY views on the rest of of us.

63% of Americans oppose torture UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. 58% of Americans opposed the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion. (It's up to about 80% now.) On ALL major issues, foreign and domestic, the vast majority of Americans oppose Bush, way up in the 60% to 79% range. And his personal approval, which has been very poor for over a year, has now sunk to 42%!

So, WHO does this man represent? And why are THEIR views spewing forth from our public airwaves?

[BR_Parkway]

86. Just because we're "conspiracy theorists" doesn't mean they're

not all in on it.

[TechBear_Seattle]

76. Framing the issues

I Have A Dream wrote: The Right is absolutely amazing at framing things. We have to find a way to get around their ability to frame things in such a way that they're able to close down our arguments.

It's easy: Just Don't Think of an Elephant.

[I Have A Dream]

79. Thanks for the reference, TechBear_Seattle.

This is so important that I'm going to buy the book.

[NuttyFluffers]

83. *sigh* conspiracy theorist = speaker of unspeakable truths

it's the new meme, memorize it. as given to us by the divine gore vidal.

now i never want to hear you say conspiracy theorist again, k? :D

O8) :evilgrin:

[I Have A Dream]

84. If we could only convince OTHER people to not say it...

I'm sure that you understand that I don't personally call the discussed people "conspiracy theorists". However, I still have to combat the argument that they are this unmentionable phrase! :)

Actually, this is part of the Right's playbook. I like what you say -- when I hear someone dismiss something as a conspiracy theory, I'll reframe it as instead being a speaker of unspeakable truths.

Thanks for the more positive, truthful wording.

[understandinglife]

13. Has she mentioned her source(s). We all know from what the judges ...

.... have stated that Fitzgerald has been enabled to move aggressively because of the "National Security" issues in the case.

If Randi named sources for her claims, then Mr Fitzgerald may have to move quickly to save even more people's lives.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[seabeyond]

15. gotta remember tenet, he wasnt afraid of bush, then he was

that is how i saw it. he opposed bush and iraq, then he bellied up. he took the blame for 9/11, i expected him to fight it he didnt. rolled over. and sat behind powell at u.n.

then he quit. i saw the tape over his mouth when he left, (not literally)

[Eloriel]

70. Maybe you studied him more thoroughly

I never really saw him as a courageous figure, or anything more than a sycophant. I could be wrong.

[FreedomAngel82]

16. AHH!!!

Is there a reliable link on this?

[CantGetFooledAgain]

20. And who was behind it all?

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. I KNEW IT!

I knew it was a twofer. Bastards.

[tjdee]

22. Here's an article on something that might be it? ARAMCO?

This article is about Plame's CIA front company, which had to do with Oil and the Saudis...is this it?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/3/16838/88864

[BrklynLiberal]

27. That is one of the articles she read oan the air today...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

29. Yes! This is it! Thank you! You should post this in its own thread. n/t

[tjdee]

34. I think I will, actually....

:hi:

actually, on edit: Was this posted before? It came out almost two weeks ago??

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

46. I hadn't heard of it before although it might have been posted.

I'll do a search.

:hi: right back at you!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

48. Just did a search and I can't find it. n/t

[Virginian]

68. I think the story two weeks ago was about Cheney's buddies.

There was something about arms dealings that they said she was getting too close to. The dealers were formerly associated with Cheney or maybe presently associated with him, I can't remember.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

98. That's it. It should have its own thread, and so far no one who initially

posted it has.

[greblc]

105. "Kick" The link to this acticle

This link needs it's own thread,

[Janice325]

23. Thanks for the explanation

I heard Randi speak about it this afternoon, but she was speaking so quickly about so many different people (many I wasn't familiar with) that I couldn't keep up with her and connect the dots.
Thanks again

[BrklynLiberal]

24. Absolutely. I think this may have been the REAL goal of outing her.

The entire Wilson thing was a setup to get at her and the Brass-plate CIA front company she was working for. they were getting too close to BushCo's secret dealings with Aramco and the rest of the Saudi oil dealings.

I wear my tinfoil hat proudly, and in good company. :tinfoilhat:

She did read this article on the air today.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/3/16838/88864

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4102596&mesg_id=4102596

[lastknowngood]

25. What is her source? I would love this to be true but we need a

good source

[BrklynLiberal]

30. You can start here.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/3/16838/88864


Google
Aramco, valerie plame, socony, bush, harkness oil, brewster-jennings, cia, bin laden

[cliss]

31. Why do I have this image

of mountain climbers scaling a ridge. They're all tied together with the same rope. The going gets reallly icy.

Suddenly, one of the climbers in the front slips (Rove). He falls down the chasm. The rest of them all go down with him.

To paraphrase a former president, "You will all go down together".

[ignatius 2]

80. Knowing that Bin Laden was trained by the CIA, Poppy is ex-head of the

CIA and still receives daily breifings,the Saudis and Bushco's have always been joined at the hip makes you wonder if the so-called Saudi financing isn't really CIA financing. That would make the 9-11 puzzle a bit clearer, the record heroin production in Afghanistan is perhaps the source of some of the CIA funding. It would be like Iran-contra all over again, except with much more devastating results.

[BrklynLiberal]

33. Randi also linked to the Raw Story interview with Joe Wilson

I believe that is where the second Novak story is mentioned, where he outed the cover corporation(Brewster-Jennings)...and really destroyed all the CIA work.


http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Interview_Ambassador_Wilson_husband_of_outed_CIA_agent_sees_larger_Administration_ro_0713.html

[Beartracks]

66. What about Novak?

I'm confused... How come this Judith lady is in jail protecting her sources, and this Cooper guy was under the gun 'til he got "clearance" to reveal his source..... But I haven't heard anything anywhere about Robert Novak and where HE actually got Plame's name from? Did I miss something?

[BrklynLiberal]

69. Novak got Plame's name from Rove. Novak is not in jail because he

sang like a canary to the grand jury.

[Beartracks]

75. Ah, okay...

that makes sense. I just read elsewhere that he has not said *publicly* who his sources were.

[peacetalksforall]

35. Cheney wmd . There are many articles on the net about her 'company

investigating nuclear and wmd money laundering and trafficking. Cheney was working with the same people who were being investigated. This was going on for a decade or more. An analyst in the Pentagon lost his job for protesting the repression of information contained in a report he worked on. Cheney objected to the release of the information.

Search 'Cheney Khan Pakistan Pentagon'.

If true, there is and equally important reason for stopping this CIA operation.

[understandinglife]

42. A recent, useful reference included in this DU post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4070938&mesg_id=4070938


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[Tommymac]

37. Thanks so much for this!

I was watching the Senate on Cspan2 do the Reid amendment - thanks for passing this on!

:toast:

[kohodog]

40. I was wondering if she read American Judas, by Robert Paulson!

http://s93118771.onlinehome.us/DU/AMERICANJUDAS.pdf

Check this out if you haven't already. Lots of info on BCCI Kahn and many more. This was written last year as an outgrowth of work done on DU.

[brettdale]

41. Kick and send to all MSM

Would it be a good idea to send this to all in the MSM.

[proud patriot]

43. Everyone needs to hear the show from today

get the the archive from the WRS .

[Lorien]

45. WRS?

Do you have a link? (I didn't know that the shows were available this way).

[proud patriot]

51. the white rose society archives shows , here's the link

http://www.whiterosesociety.org/

[Straight Shooter]

44. It looks like they would have outed her, with or without Joe Wilson.

Joe Wilson was simply Plan A. I wonder what Plan B was. A whispering campaign set in motion by Rove? That's his m.o.

High stakes, high risks, hang 'em high. Traitors. Filthy filthy filthy.

[proud patriot]

52. shit it's probably why he was chosen for the trip to Niger

These assholes who have hyjacked our Nation must be stopped

[loudsue]

71. Holy Shit, Proud Patriot! You just said a MOUTH FULL!!

That is probably THE reason they sent him....they had to get his wife, and her team, out of their (illegal) business!!

:yourock:



:kick::kick::kick:

[brettdale]

47. kick

kick

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

49. Might this have resulted in "identifying" several other agents as well?

The law prohibits dissemination of "any information identifying such covert agent". "Naming" the agent is not necessary.

I submit that several covert agents, perhaps even some then stationed abroad might have had their covers blown. Naming a company set up to provide cover for its employees who are actually agents could be construed to be "any information identifying" them.

[Sparkman]

53. Unless the front co.'s NOT empolying CIA, then it's a big indangerment

[peacetalksforall]

64. If true that they carried classified files on board AF1, could they have

also carried a file for Brester-Jennings?

I think Tenet must step forward -

- tell us that the CIA and contacts were not jeopardized, that her file and Brewster-Jenning were NOT classified, that she deserved what she got, the Joe Wilson approached the CIA and talked you into sending him, that he paid his own way. Tell us that you did not debrief him. Or tell us that he was not debriefed by CIA staff. Tell us that you were displeased with his zeal or professionalism and his written report.

Then tell us why you were let go and later knighted?

[Booster]

50. All of this makes so much sense it's scary. I never thought I'd see

a sitting American president go on trial for treason, but I'm not so sure it won't happen. They have botched this whole mess so much they can no longer lie their way out of it. I have always thought Bush attacked Iraq to get the heat off of Saudi Arabia because the highjackers were Saudi and Bin Laden is Saudi, so it just makes so much sense to attack Iraq. I really hate this administration.

[Sparkman]

55. Outing a spy only makes sense to validate a co-intel program. This Ain't.

[Sparkman]

56. Bush Pledge: We must all hang together, or we shall surely hang separately

[brettdale]

58. If this gets out

Could this bring down the whole White House?

[loudsue]

73. The "White House" consists of the owners of the vote counting machines

the media, and the economy (the Fed). So....No. Nothing short of China is going to bring down this White(washed) House.

:applause: But some of us REAL American PATRIOTS will know the truth! :applause:

:kick::kick::kick:

[Spazito]

61. I am wondering if this is why there was an "unanticipated shift"

in the Grand Jury investigation?

Here is a quote from the Plame Leak Judge Hogan:

"Special Counsel now needs to pursue different avenues in order to complete its investigation." Judge Hogan concluded that "the subpoenas were not issued in an attempt to harass the reporters, but rather stem from legitimate needs due to an unanticipated shift in the grand jury's investigation."


There is an interesting thread on this 'unanticipated shift':

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4101461

[Native]

62. my thoughts exactly

[jarnocan]

63. I hope

those in the know , and who are honestly working to bring out the truth and justice stay safe and healthy, for real!

<http://hq.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizations/publiccitizen/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=973&t=GiveNoNav.dwt> also Air america has one- 6 more on blog and around 6 for Supreme Court issues. It's getting hot!

[leesa]

74. And rtemember Bush's family lawyer, James Baker III rushing to the aide of

the Saudi Arabians when the 9-11 families sued to find the money trail to OBL. The Bushes and bin Ladens are in on it....they did it all, including 9-11.

[ncteechur]

77. kick this m-fer to the top of the class!!!!

[redacted]

81. KICK.

[rman]

82. Looks like it ties in with the Sibel Edmonds case and '28 missing pages'

FBI Translator in eye of storm on retroactive classification
Boston Globe - Boston,MA,USA
By Anne E. Kornblut, Globe Staff | July 5, 2004
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/07/05/translator_in_eye_of_storm_on_retroactive_classification/

<snip>

Edmonds, 34, who is fluent in Turkish and Farsi, said she quickly reported the mistake to an FBI superior. Five months later, after flagging what she said were several other security lapses in her division, she was fired. Now, after more than two years of investigations and congressional inquiries, Edmonds is at the center of an extraordinary storm over US classification rules that sheds new light on the secrecy imperative supported by members of the Bush administration.

In a rare maneuver, Attorney General John Ashcroft has ordered that information about the Edmonds case be retroactively classified, even basic facts that have been posted on websites and discussed openly in meetings with members of Congress for two years. The Department of Justice also invoked the seldom-used ''state secrets" privilege to silence Edmonds in court. She has been blocked from testifying in a lawsuit brought by victims of the Sept. 11 attacks and was allowed to speak to the panel investigating the Sept. 11 attacks only behind closed doors.

<snip>

========

http://www.antiwar.com/deliso/...
An Interview with Sibel Edmonds
FBI Whistleblower Talks to Antiwar.com
by Christopher Deliso
balkanalysis.com

<snip>

CD: What are they so afraid of?

SE: They're afraid of information, of the truth coming out, and accountability - the whole accountability issue that will arise. But it's not as complicated as it might seem. If they were to allow the whole picture to emerge, it would just boil down to a whole lot of money and illegal activities.

CD: Hmm, well I know you can't name names, but can you tell me if any specific officials will suffer if your testimony comes out?

SE: Yes. Certain elected officials will stand trial and go to prison.

========

Chairman Kean's pre-9/11 Oil Links to bin Laden Severed Just Before
Appointment to Commission
http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=52&mode=&order=0&thold=0

9/11 Commission Chairman and Amerada-Hess Oil director Kean's company
maintained Caspian joint venture Delta Oil business ties to bin Laden's brother-in-law for 15 months after attacks despite reported terrorism finance links--and just 21 days prior to Kean's appointment by Bush to commission. This, as FBI translator Sibel Edmonds' letter and follow-up calls to Kean charging FBI internal security and espionage breaches went unanswered for a year.

<snip>

If Americans become aware that Mr. Bush and Mr. Kean both have had
connections to an FBI-validated Saudi financier of terrorism, questions will likely arise why Congress did not fight the White House's redaction of 28 pages of the joint congressional report (reportedly implicating Saudi officials in the financing of al-Qaeda terrorism and the 9-11 plot) and why bin Laden family members were allowed to fly out of the United States without being questioned by the FBI. This, while all American planes were grounded--the ultimate sweetheart deal.

<snip>

========


BUSH AND THE SAUDIS SITTIN' IN A TREE . . . KAY EYE ESS ESS EYE EN GEE
The President Exempts Gays from Marriage, Saudis from Guilt Web Log
Friday, August 1, 2003
by Greg Palast
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=253&row=1

<snip>

But here's the real kick in the head. Turns out that unlike the 18 minutes missing from the Nixon tape, the 28 pages missing from Congress' publicly released report on the September 11 attack has been found. And it turns out to be a summary of Saudi Arabia's financing of terrorist fronts including the 'charities' supporting Al Qaeda.

<snip>

========

Sibel Edmonds & Whistleblower Coalition
4/28/05
http://justacitizen.org/articles_documents/FOR%20IMMEDIATE%20RELEASE%20April%2026.htm

National Security Whistleblowers Coalition: Congress, Whistleblower Protection & Accountability

An unprecedented group of national security whistleblowers have formed a united front as the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC). They will collectively attend two bipartisan congressional meetings today to demand that Congress act to end government retaliation against those who expose national security blunders, that Congress hold hearings into the federal government’s actions against whistleblowers, and that Congress act to require ‘individual accountability’ for retaliation against whistleblowers. The congressional meetings will be followed by a press conference featuring speakers from the NSWBC and guest speakers.

<snip>

[wiggs]

94. Brewster Jennings, Plame and Edmonds

Three huge dots that might be connected if Edmonds information comes out. Rhodes discussion does sound very familiar to Edmonds stuff.

The Bolton dot, the Niger dot, the 9/11 dots are waiting for their day.

One fell swoop: end of Rove, Bolton, Bush, Cheney, GOP, nuclear option, Ashcroft, Iraq invasion, Novak, House of Bush.

[imenja]

88. Andrea Mitchell said something about that too

she also said if this goes up to Bush, it's impeachment.

[Gregorian]

89. This was in the "old" Plame threads.

If I remember. H20man, et al. had made this fine connection. Oh, I mean this is a really nasty coverup. They HAD to have this war.

Mission is accomplished. The damage is done; They got what they wanted. A Kamakazee run. And a pardon for all, on top of it.

[BeHereNow]

96. It's all so...sordid, isn't it?

When, oh when is someone who knows
everything going to go public?
This has to end!
Please wake the fuck up America!
We have been taken over by hostile forces!
They are residing in Washington DC...and very busy
destroying our future for generations to come.
Oh HELL, when will people get it?
BHN

[lovuian]

99. If they prove this connection to 9/11 Osama How in the hell

is the Republicans going to stand by and not impeach him. after the Michael Moore Movie connected the Saudis and the information that FBI Aschcroft allowed them to escape the country. No wonder Osama hasn't been caught ... the leaking of Valerie Plame was to make sure he wasn't caught!!!

Maybe this is the cause for Cheney's heart problems and Prince Fahd's deprression!!!

[RagAss]

100. If it's true

May God guide us through the next few months....

[librarycard]

101. Two-fers are the Bushies MO.

It wouldn't surprise me if Randi's info were correct.

[lovuian]

102. Kick

:kick:

[pgh_dem]

103. The Iraq invasion had already happened by July 2003

I don't fault the speculation of 'two-birds-one-stone' types.

But just saying the Iraq War didn't need to 'move forward' at the time of Plame-Wilson's cover being blown.

[goforit]

104. WOW!!!!

Rally!!!!!
We must persevere!!!

We must accomplish with every ounce of our souls!!!

[greblc]

106. This is to Good(or Bad) to be true.

We need more sources.

[goforit]

107. kick

[Octafish]

108. Bingo.