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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 12:42 PM Original message |
The Party of Lincoln and Reagan |
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Goldmund (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good post. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. I agree. Some folks seem to pine for the good ol' days when |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Wrong on the Federalists as well |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. By "ancestor" of the republican party, I am referring to an ideological |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. This post is pure rubbish, and DU at its most reactionary and partisan. |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Insightful post |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Thanks. It's a shame that politics is simply a "team sport" to some... |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. What Wild Pronouncements |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. This post simply proves your ignorance on this. |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. That is Stupid |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Then by your definition every president we have ever had prior to |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Context Nothing |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. DId you only read half the book? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 10:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Well? Every president WAS a white supremacist... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I'm sure the slaves would have liked the "hey, slavery will end eventually |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-09-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. That's not really the point. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. The Civil War was all about slavery. There would be no war |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. In That Case |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Beautiful post. |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. By the Standards of His Own Time |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. Please... |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's easy to rag on Lincoln while viewing him through... |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Emancipation Proclamation |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Limited view. |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. I agree totally. |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. Lincoln's concern was that the Border States: Missouri, Kentucky, |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. The party of FDR and Wallace? |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Or what about the party of Woodrow Wilson, a racist of the highest order? |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. Beyond the Point |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Abraham Lincoln |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. They Were Wrong |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Some true quotes from Lincoln - read these and CRY YOUR FACE OFF: |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Cry In My Face My Rear End |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. You are so anachronistic! |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Well, if he had told the truth, he never would have been elected and |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-09-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. I gave you some Lincoln quotes. Now it's your turn to prove your point. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
12. This is so...misguided. So anachronistic. |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Then |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. No...we are not facing mutiny now. |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Before Iraq |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. He suspended Habeus Corpus AFTER the South became rebellious |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Not about Iraq |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Difference: Bush has no proof. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Oh, also Section 9 of the Constitution says it may be suspended for |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Proof |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. And they were all from Iraq right? Oh wait... |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Not Even About Iraq |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. He didn't "believe there was a crisis" half the freaking country seceded |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-05 06:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
61. Strongly disagree |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. People are just |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Sorry, Lincoln was no |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 11:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Lerone Bennett isn't very well respected for his work. |
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Terran1212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
14. Good Points |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Yes, Lincoln was truely a tyrant. Invaded the South and all. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. Lincoln's war |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Actually he held a council in which he offered to end the war, |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-05 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. As others have already observed, this post is bristling with ignorance. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
53. Who exactly has cited Reagan as an example of a good Republican |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard anyone praise Reagan on DU. |
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