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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:12 AM Original message |
Abstract question: Is it better to *win*, or to be *right*? |
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BBradley (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Right. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. better to be right |
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Crowdance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. Integrity above all |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'd rather be right. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
5. right |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. Neither |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
7. Same Q as "is it better to be rethuglican or a Progressive"... |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. No, yours is a *specific* version of the question..... |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 07:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Winning anything means NOTHING at all unless we have |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 07:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. is this truly a good example? |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. I knew there was a reason I said "However well these examples..." |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. sorry - not trying to attack |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. All good...... It's hard to find examples that get unanimous agreement.. |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
8. One would hope... |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
11. Interesting replies |
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prayin4rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
29. The wheel keeps spinning. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Wow - scary question.... |
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prayin4rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Yeah that's true especially depending on what principles they stuck |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. lol - still scary, even with the questioned agreement being assumed... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
13. I prefer to base my actions on what's right (ethically, morally) |
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Mend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
14. Darwin would have said, "to win" |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 08:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. except that evolution is not a contest |
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Mend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I think adaptation to survive (evolution) is the only real contest eom |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Wonderful, so be reductionist/nihilistic.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
15. and here you still think about that event that you chose win or |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. I'll take that bet! lol - where do these folks come from... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. i think the showing is you own it, have conscience |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Ok, I get ur original post a little bit better now..... |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
17. Can't you do both? |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. It's too much to ask that in *every* case.... |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
19. It would be easy to register as a Repub. and be one of the winners |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. LOL - show me how to "balance" it then.... |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
59. If I knew the secret, I'd be a campaign manager! |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. I don't think it's a matter of giving up anything |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Rock on. Separate but equal it is. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I'm really going for "equal but equal" |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Sigh...... once famous and powerful words, lost in the dustbin of history |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Has it occurred to anyone that winning and right are subjective? |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. See my Nietzsche comment.... /eom |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
20. Better to be right... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
24. right is winning, ex: |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. In that case, sure. But there do exist *other* cases... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. just thinking about it. i thought that isw what you were looking for |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Gotcha! That context helps.... :) /eom |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
28. be right! |
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ihaveaquestion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
30. I like winning - even when I'm wrong. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I wish I could say I didn't have that streak in me too.... lol /eom |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
38. What is the dharma? |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Whoa - is that.... |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #43 |
57. yes it is |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
42. then again we would have to define and limit what the win is.... |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:34 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I'm good with your presence.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. all interesting |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. doh! are you as drunk as I am/was? LOL /eom |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
44. Abstrract answer: "Yes" |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. lol - NICE - the "probability" way of looking at things..... |
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NoStinkinBadges (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
46. Win By Being Right. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. When possible, sure. What about all the other times? /eom |
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really-looney (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
53. In the next few election cycles....... |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Way to step up to the plate! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. was that a raking, |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Certainly not as bad as I was imagining..... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. cant do it by stealing it |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
62. In applied ethics it's rarely as simple or universal as that |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
63. In Politics |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. LOL - #62, meet #63! |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. D'oh!!!! |
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really-looney (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. That is what I was trying to say.... |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
66. 'Tis better to be poor and happy than rich and unhappy. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Really - it's never been important anywhere else? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-05 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
68. You sound like Dr. Phil!!! |
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