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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:31 PM Original message |
Is The American Empire Nearing Its End? |
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CottonBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. Grammar alert: it's should be its. n/t |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Good catch. I fixed it. Thanks. Sometimes my fingers outrun my brain. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's all over but the crying now |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. or the British Invasion of....uhhhhh...Iraq. nt |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. I doubt Iraq will be our Russia |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
71. Afghanistan was the Soviet Union's "Russia" |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. that's a better analogy |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
57. yes please. |
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snowbird42 (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. I sure have to agree with you. |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 07:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
64. Hi snowbird42!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Welcome to DU. Please do enlighten us. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. lay off the newbie |
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kcwayne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. What in particular are you saying is distorted? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. A Berkeley undergrad! |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
49. The only thing I might contest |
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Pegleg Thd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
5. Before the bush cabal is finished |
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pinkpops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. lookie here |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. This belongs on the home page, Cyrano. |
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readmylips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. Agree...our mighty bombs will not help... |
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jandrok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. Approaching, but not for a while.... |
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Royal Observer (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. How long did the Roman Empire last? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Life spans of empires vary. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Yes, but, the world moves a lot more quickly these days. |
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Royal Observer (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I've always said |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
67. time is contracting |
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gennifer6 (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
13. Been thinking about that a lot lately with China booming.... |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. It's true |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
17. Y'all ever seen that bumper sticker "Drive it like you stole it?" |
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gennifer6 (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Geez, you're right, Caligula stole the election |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yeah, sadly, |
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gennifer6 (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. But a lot can change in four years...... |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. It's broader than Bush |
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gennifer6 (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. As much as I can't stand Michael Jackson |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Well you might not have to wait too long for the Allies |
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gennifer6 (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I think everyone who's not within US borders is cozying up to each other |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Especially |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
66. And south america formed a new trading block, |
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Royal Observer (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. The Palace Guard |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. No Way... |
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Royal Observer (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. No one thought that Caligula would either. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. I don't think China will have full hegemony. |
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minerva50 (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
22. Otto Spengler said it. |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
26. Approaching its end? no |
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radric (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I pity a world in which China or Russia... |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. The Europeans could give them a run |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Ya have to admit it would be pretty ironic |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Might I suggest that, from the perspective of |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
63. It's clear that America is past its peak... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
35. China is kicking our ass |
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gennifer6 (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. The rest of the class will finally gang up on the bully |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
40. One can only hope |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
41. If America is a "main sequence" empire, it's reached red giant stage. |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. We still had a lot of soft power |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. hey! |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
42. Nearing? We are the pariah of the world the rest is down hill. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Not necessarily. All of the previous empires were also hated by |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
47. Nearing? Have been trying to tell people this for years & that |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. Wonderful thread, with the exception of your WWII comments |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. DerekG. Regarding "The Greatest Generation," |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 11:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
69. We actually hires lots of "ex" Nazis post WWII |
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Daybreaker (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
52. The American Empire might be nearing its end. |
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secedeeconomically (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
53. I don’t buy into this whole "The Greatest Generation." BS |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Please read post #51. |
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secedeeconomically (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. One could make similar statements about any generation |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. I don't know how old you are, or to which generation you belong. |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 11:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. My grandparents were slightly older |
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durutti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
56. Iraq will decide. |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
59. I HOPE SO! |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
60. Author Kevin Phillips says yes. |
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stackhouse (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
68. hi guys just popping in |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
72. Yes we are nearing the end of America as we know it. |
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The Zanti Regent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
73. America no longer exists. |
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