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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:36 AM
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Download Fahrenheit 9/11 Here
Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 01:47 AM by Seeker30
For those of you who want to watch Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 before the DVD release:

http://www.scam.com/fahrenheit911_movie/911part1.zip
http://www.scam.com/fahrenheit911_movie/911part2.zip

Michael Moore has authorized the free download of this movie on the internet.
He said that the movie made enough money at the box office and the message is more important.


Controversial film-maker Michael Moore has welcomed the appearance on the internet of pirated copies of his anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 and claimed he is happy for anybody to download it free of charge.
The activist, author and director told the Sunday Herald that, as long as pirated copies of his film were not being sold, he had no problem with it being downloaded.

“I don’t agree with the copyright laws and I don’t have a problem with people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as they’re not trying to make a profit off my labour. I would oppose that,” he said.

“I do well enough already and I made this film because I want the world, to change. The more people who see it the better, so I’m happy this is happening.”

Moore’s views have not been well received by Hollywood’s establishment, which is fighting a war against the online pirates it claims cost the industry £1.6 billion a year in lost sales.

Jack Valenti, the outgoing president of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), said: “We are proud that American films continue to enjoy immense popularity around the world but the need for copyright protection in the digital age is crucial to the preservation of our most prized trade asset.

“Piracy is having a dramatic impact on the creators and copyright owners of this nation, and its defeat depends largely on the commit ment and resolve of the entire industry.

“File sharing causes tremendous financial loss to the movie business, untold hardship to support workers, and costs thousands of jobs.”

Distributed via websites such as suprnova.org, which lays claim to having served more than 17 million downloads, Moore’s documentary critique of the Bush administration’s red, white and blue rush into war with Iraq is among the web’s hottest properties.

Thousands of copies of Fahrenheit 9/11 have already been downloaded, each taking about 3.5 hours over a broadband connection.

Ironically, the burgeoning underground market for Moore’s much-debated documentary has been championed by both sides of the political divide. While left-wing sites promote the film’s message, opponents of the high-profile polemicist are urging people to “steal” their copy, thus denying its director his cut of the profits.

Last month the website of producers Lions Gate Films was subjected to a barrage of attacks by hackers, with one creating a link to a download destination on the site’s front page.

Despite up to 150 people simultaneously bagging free copies of its most valuable property at any given time 24 hours a day, Lions Gate says it has no plans to oppose the practice. While unwilling to make any official statement likely to further provoke Hollywood’s heavy hitters, the film company appears to have fallen into line with its director’s laissez-faire approach.

Moore said: “Is it wrong for someone who’s bought a film on DVD to let a friend watch it for free? Of course it’s not. It never has been and never will be. I think information, art and ideas should be shared.”

Defenders of Moore’s position include Pulp Fiction director Quentin Tarantino, who earlier this year encouraged audiences in countries where his films are not legally available to obtain counterfeit copies.

The furore engulfing Moore is just the latest in a series of controversies surrounding the film. Almost smothered by original production company Miramax’s refusal to distribute the final cut, he also this year launched an unsuccessful legal attempt to overturn the MPAA’s decision to give the documentary an “R” rating, which barred under-16s from seeing the movie without an adult.

Opposed by Move America Forward, a conservative group set up to dissuade cinemas from showing the film, Fahrenheit 9/11 has become one of the most controversial productions in Hollywood history. Last month Australian distributors Hopscotch Films claimed to have received e-mails warning that if the company went ahead with its planned release of the movie, it would do so “at our own peril”.

The hubbub is unlikely to subside any time soon. With Lions Gate reporting that DVD rights are likely to be won by Disney-owned Buena Vista Home Entertainment, many commentators believe the digital distribution network may yet face serious opposition.

Valenti said: “Nobody can allow their rights to be stolen because, if you can’t retrieve your investment, you’re out of the movie business,

“I don’t think there’s really a single actor or director in the world who does not believe that if you don’t combat piracy, it will devour you in the future.”

http://www.sundayherald.com/43167
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:42 AM
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1. Dont think so
i'll gladly pay for it, part of the profits go to the families of 9/11.
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:45 AM
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3. I hear ya
I plan on buying it once it comes out, the quality of the download is not to great but I was curious to see it. The movie made me fricken furious.
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:45 AM
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4. I understood
the profits go to the families of 9/11 also chimpsrsmarter. I feel the same.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:45 AM
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2. link please...
...linking directly to files is unwise. Furthermore, you post what looks like an article, but without attribution or linkage. Also, if it IS from an article, you've exceeded the reasonable limitations on how much you can post. Please edit to correct.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:48 AM
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5. I'd rather buy it.
F911 is worth the price of a DVD.
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:59 AM
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11. You should buy it
Buy 20 copies when it comes out. The point is nobody in their right mind will vote for Bush after seeing this film. We should do everything possible to see to it as many people see it as possible. Isnt it your goal to get Bush out of there? Besides, if Bush stays in power it effects all of us, not just the families of 9/11.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:02 AM
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12. Yes, like I said, I intend to buy it.
And I'll most likely buy copies to give to people I think need to see it.

I was just saying that I don't plan to download it, I plan to PAY for it.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:03 AM
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14. His link is crap, i looked it up and it tracks the downloader
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:17 AM
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16. I know.
I alerted the mods. The situation looks suspicious to me. I'm surprised the thread hasn't been locked.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:50 AM
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6. hey, guy . . . where's the authentication from Michael Moore?
Where's the resource? How do we know what the hell we are downloading too? Come on, huh?
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:52 AM
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8. Mods please close this topic n/t
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Eikon Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:51 AM
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7. Mirrors
Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 02:15 AM by Eikon
Michael Moore said it, I heard him myself. I'll leave you to lament over his decision.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:54 AM
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9. exactly . . . this freeper shot should be shutdown !!
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:55 AM
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10. I've alerted the mods
Edited on Thu Sep-16-04 02:08 AM by 951
Eikon, linking to a site which openly offers illegal files for download is a no no here
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:03 AM
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13. DO NOT BELIEVE THIS POST
Michael Moore would have mentioned it on his site

and who is "seeker30"? with this one post

I would be very suspect
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 02:16 AM
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15. Thats your option
And its not 1 post. Been on this site for over 6 months, sorry if I don't have the time to post night and day like some.

So I suppose you don't trust the Sunday Herald article either?
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