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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:43 PM Original message |
Why are women treated so badly? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Learned |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. LMAO... Damn... was going to say the same thing!! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Seriously, though |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I would agree! n/t |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Oh please. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. lol |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Jokes like that draw a certain type out like flies to a corpse |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. My my, first Whoopi, now this... |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. in 19th cent and earlier, in family males got more food than females |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Like... insecure assholes scared of being dominated by powerful women? |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. 1 suggestion ---- fathers needed strength for manual labor |
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TNMOM (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
127. Families needed boys to care for them... |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
80. In the 21st century, males get more food than fermales. |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #80 |
92. Interesting idea |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Manual Labor Capability |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #98 |
132. True One Life |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #92 |
111. Do you really think... |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #111 |
122. No, I didn't make my point |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. But, it's in the Bible... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Woohoo! Are you a guy? |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. Yeah, just don't hold it against me...;) |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. YAY you! Lack of research into women's health issues |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
7. Why are there no men on this thread yet? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Simple |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Bawk bawk! |
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FreedomReload (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
11. I Doubt Your looking For Any Male Input In This Discussion |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Oh what a copout! |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. It isn't a cop out. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Well it sure seems like it to me |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. I agree. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Yeah, you both have a point. |
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Arianrhod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
83. "For all of recorded history!" ... Simply not true. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #83 |
103. Well is that really 'recorded'? |
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Snow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #103 |
117. There're many historians who have an allergy to oral tradition |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Well... not *completely* tangential |
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Snow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Hmmmm, hypothesis.... |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #103 |
133. "Hisotry"? |
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Arianrhod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 02:12 AM Response to Reply #103 |
135. Well, it may not be recorded, |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. You're wrong |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
41. Everybody's a Little Bit Sexist |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
45. No, but... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Oops n/t |
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neuvocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. Depends on which culture. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Now that's interesting |
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neuvocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I'll get back to you on that one. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. lol... thanks! Really! |
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neuvocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. I'm looking under "matriarchies" |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
57. A number of Native American tribes are matriarchal |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Thanks I'll have to look through these. n/t |
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neuvocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. Something else to consider |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 04:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
138. The Amazons were fictional. |
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neuvocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #138 |
142. **wiping the egg of his face** |
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Snow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
87. Try China - the character for family name has "mother" as its root |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
39. Females dominant? |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Does that mean she's passionately obsessive-compulsive? (/stereotype) -n/t |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. Many think that |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
43. shanghai, china |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. That's interesting |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
76. I was responding to the above post |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. No way! |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. way |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. Also a bad idea. |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
16. The slavery thing has a lot to do with money |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Physical strength, generally less aggressive |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Perhaps some of it is built in.... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
64. What about women who choose abusive relationships? |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. That's psychological |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Once again, it's learned |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
81. Romance novels |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #81 |
90. today there are lots of different types of romance novels |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #90 |
120. Yeesh, |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
17. things that really freaked me out when I started reading about |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
66. she took advantage of it |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
77. I like your interpretation... very well said. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:13 PM Response to Reply #66 |
93. Maria, a friend from Croatia |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #66 |
141. Another interpretation of the apple |
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rene moon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
21. I've always believed |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:56 PM Original message |
Ok, here's my best shot |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
26. Damn |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
29. I think it depends on the culture. |
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toddzilla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
22. i think before society was developed.. |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. When you look at those cultures, |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Actually, hunter/gatherer societies |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
23. So that men can retain power |
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
30. My theory: A psychological fear and jealousy of those who can crate life |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
56. I think you're on to something |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
69. A slight disagreement with you |
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Arianrhod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
88. Homophobia |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. Hmm...fascinating theory... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #88 |
104. Agreed n/t |
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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
31. Doweries and Inheritance. |
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MsUnderstood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
35. It is bred into every culture because it dates back so far in HIStory |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
79. You disprove your own conclusion |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
94. Isn't part of this the male need to be sure that what he's |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
40. Been studying and researching this all my life, all my life |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. great post |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
65. Thanks for the references! |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:11 PM Original message |
I think the USA is sickenly obnoxiously adolescent right now |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
105. Yes it is |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #105 |
114. True.....! |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
96. I remember how shocked I was when my son was in 5-6th |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. amazingly sad isnt it..the worst thing a boy can call another boy |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #99 |
108. Bless you for taking the time |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. well I figured if I was going to be a mom |
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ilovenicepeople (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 12:58 AM Response to Reply #108 |
134. That's so true |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #96 |
106. Same as when men call each other "bitch" as an insult |
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AmyDeLune (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
124. One of my male friends |
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AG78 (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
44. As Homer Simpson might say |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
54. Protection from attack |
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pnb (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
59. This might be overly simplistic... |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
62. Women are treated badly |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
63. Power. Men have more physical power, so historically they subjugated women |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
71. Jane Goodall might throw in her experience with the Chimpanzees as well |
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HallowsEve (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
72. I personally believe |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. This drives me crazy |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Mine blames men |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
116. hallows i dont often here other talk this on this board |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
74. I belive some the root problem lies in religion. |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
101. There is also misogyny in non Christian areas |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:22 AM Response to Reply #74 |
136. Ever hear of the Virgin Mary, Mother of God? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
78. Nature |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Nature also relegates human beings should be pooping their pants |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
86. Do men really fare any better? |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Men , imho, are also relegated to stupid archaic roles |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #86 |
109. Only somewhat |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
89. In tribal/family centered societies...the individual has little role... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
91. It's a two way street |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #91 |
110. Hey you sound like Dr. Laura!!! |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 04:23 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. I hope I don't :-) |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
100. I think back when war was face to face hacking, men had |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #100 |
107. Women were preganant or had young children most of their life |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. Contrary to popular perception, women had a variety of |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
102. If you possibly can, SEE THIS MOVIE |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
118. I'm kinda burnt out on this issue lately, so I |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
121. With so much of it right here at DU, how can we expect any different |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
125. the downfall of woman conincided with the rise of patriarchy |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Conservatives/Fundies want women to be subservient to men. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #126 |
140. indeed....woman hatred is the father of all hatred, imho eom |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
128. I think it's biological... |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
129. Original sin... |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
130. Physical weakness + testosterone = slavery |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-16-04 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
131. NPR had a segment on HIV in India, today |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
137. It's because men are kinda insane and love to make war. |
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greymattermom (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
139. why? |
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