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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:04 PM Original message |
Clarke Asks Moveon.org To Pull Its Ad |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's a great ad, but I can understand his concern. |
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gasperc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. they should get his permission but if he wants to keep this non-partisan |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 10:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I agree. This cuts both ways... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. Clarke is an honorable man. I do not agree with his request |
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dax (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. He has to make the statement |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. Tough Noogies |
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belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Yes, but we want him on *our side.* Going against his express wishes |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. If he doesn't want to play politics like he says |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
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BabsSong (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. Mr. Clarke--how many snipits of Condi's lovefest testimony do you |
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SeveneightyWhoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. I actually agree with him. |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. why does MoveOn have a 'horrid reputation" amongst many Americans? |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. because they're constantly called in the right-wing media as a "liberal" |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I don't think most Americans have even heard of MoveOn |
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auntpattywatty (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. three guesses - the first one would be Republican Party brainwashing |
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SeveneightyWhoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Why? |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. why should be bother worrying about what our enemies think? |
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Kimber Scott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. It should be pulled |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. that's my agreement with you.... |
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Kimber Scott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. That's a GREAT idea. |
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mike1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. I agree with you, it will backfire. Not that I won't support moveon thoug |
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
65. I hate to tell you but it is Partison Politics |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. As much as I appreciate MoveOn's motives... |
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Kimber Scott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. Does anyone have an email address for MoveOn? |
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swag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Giving moveon.org feedback |
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Kimber Scott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. Thanks. I sent them a link to this discussion. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
10. Wow, they didn't ask him first? |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. no, they didn't even ask him, which seems to be somewhat illegal |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Illegal? No |
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belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Illegal, no. Creepy, yes. They should have asked him. And they should.. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. No argument from me on that |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Public Domain |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. well, this way - both sides are happy |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. Yeah - More Publicity |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Sounds good to me |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. MoveOn Cannot Back Down |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
15. should be pulled |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
17. posted here at GD2004 |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. it's okay to post the same thing in another forum...... |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
22. This ad feed the "Clarke is a partisan" mantra of the right and plays |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Clarke crossing the street would be construed as a partisan act by the RW |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. that's what I think too---what's the email/phone number for moveon.org? |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
23. it makes him look like he's a part of the Democratic attack against Bush. |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
26. He definitely has a point.. |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
31. I agree with Clarke. Moveon should have asked his permission first. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Definitely not cool |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
40. I think they should pull it, it was a bad idea |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. If they want to run an add with Bush mocking the WMD hunt, I'll cheer!(nt) |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. I totally |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
41. Good for him... |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
44. do they have to ask bush before using *his* quotes? |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
46. At risk at being nonpartisan, |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
47. If he says it in public it can be repeated in public...you can refute what |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
48. Good for you, MoveOn - DON'T pull it!! |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
49. I respect Clarke too, but believe me, if there would have |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
50. Good for both of them |
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skeptic9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
51. I'm glad Clarke asked, but 'NO' should be the answer... |
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Emboldened Chimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
52. If it's his wish, then it should be honored. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
53. Good for him |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
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vetwife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Move on gets it right 99 percent but wrong on this one |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Exactly. If Clarke is seen as partisan, his testimony loses credibility. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #64 |
75. I know what side I'm on. Clarke said he wants the Truth to come out. |
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SOteric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
71. I'm not sure I agree... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. This is what the ADMINISTRATION wants..... |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
60. If I was Move On... |
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
62. Clarke specifically brought this up on Hardball tonight... |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
66. Maybe they didn't discuss it with him first... |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
68. Another thing....it would be nice to have Clarke speaking out up until |
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Tactical Progressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. 'I'm not responsible for how people use the truth.' |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
70. Someone please tell me how this differs from GOP ads with Kerry's voice?? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-31-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Please? I really want to know. |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. I don't see a difference either-the GOP is using Kerry's public images |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Hi Dac_76!! |
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neoteric lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
76. I agree with Clarke |
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