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truizm (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:38 PM Original message |
Does the Bible actually say homosexuality is a sin? |
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Forosuul (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. The Old Testament |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. the Paul reference is in Romans, as I recall |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. The reason that Paul's writings are used is because |
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mot78 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Paul also supported slavery as an institution |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Welcome to DU |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Or have sex with a woman on the rag |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. The problem with Paul... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
64. Well, the issue is the translation |
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LiberalManiacfromOC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. yup... pretty much |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. well, I know for a fact that Jesus never said anything . . . |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Paul is actually speaking about men |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. There was a line-by-line critique of this in Time recently |
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DFLer4edu (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. No link, |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. In many cases |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. KJV is no longer top scholarship |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Tell that to the Freepers |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Thats what scares me |
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LDS Jock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. I think what was meant by up to date is |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Yes, thank you |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. Here you go: |
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FireHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Cafeteria Christianity |
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LDS Jock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. but Jesus did away with the law... |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
71. Just a note to take this further. . . |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. It's really quite simple. The Bible wasn't written in English |
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DFLer4edu (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. 1 Corinthians 6: 9 |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. God loves direct expression of hatred, apparently. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. Someone should explain to that girl.. |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
72. Also that she's committing blasphemy; |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
49. Similarity between Southern Baptists and Fred Phelps: |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. How accurate is the Bible anyway? I think it's all bull. |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. VERY interesting point about the origin of the word "homosexual" |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Excellent book |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Here's another one |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. OK, now say it in Greek |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Go here for an alternate view of Cor 6:9-10 |
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truthseeker1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. Notice that female prostitutes were omitted? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. Problem with that translation is that... |
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eleonora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. I read a great article, here's the link |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Absolutely right, eleonora |
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lazarus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
15. oddly enough, though |
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DulceDecorum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Lesbians & British law. |
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LDS Jock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. No fair |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
47. I was reading a book about Judiaism |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 07:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
54. One of the Romans passages theoretically mentions it |
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sir_captain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
17. Doesn't the bible also have support for slavery? |
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DulceDecorum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. Slave Quotes |
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sir_captain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Well, I guess that settles that |
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Offshore Bush (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. That Ephesians quote reminds me of a really good |
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achtung_circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
18. More biblical fun |
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mmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
25. Of course it does; plain and simple. |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. No, it says it's ritually unclean |
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caledesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. Check out this site - Skeptic Annotated Bible - Good ammo here. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Dang, I was about to suggest the same site. |
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Big Simonia (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
33. Here's a good reply |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The problem is... |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 07:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Welcome to DU - I've seen that before |
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terisel (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
38. Big sex sin is Adultery ! Jesus also spoke against divorce. |
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gator_in_Ontario (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
43. Well, first..... |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
52. Laws of the USA |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Let's base our laws on the Wiccan Rede! |
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truizm (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Agreed... |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
57. yes, it does |
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Lorne (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
59. I never read it anywhere in the Bible. |
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LividLiberal (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
60. The Bible, like statistics, says anything you want to make it say |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. the passages are quite specific regarding this |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Not at all clear |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I agree with the laws/bible thing at least |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Lucky indeed |
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Mike Niendorff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
65. A more fundamental question: |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
68. Apparently the Methodist's aren't convinced that the bible says that |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
69. I've always thought Jesus was one awesome gay individual. |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
70. Yes...it does |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
73. Read this - an open letter to Dr. Laura (Leviticus) |
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truizm (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-22-04 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
74. kick |
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drb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-22-04 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
75. Yes. However it also says... |
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