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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:51 PM
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Rage Against the Machines (DU mentioned!)
Rage Against the Machines
The Web wonders if electronic voting machines stole the election.

The Web wonders if electronic voting machines stole the election.
The News Target Network has a rundown on Bush's "mysterious '5% advantage' " in states that use electronic voting here. The site Democratic Underground, which as of 4:20 p.m. PT Nov. 3 has closed its forums to non-registered users, argued that hanky panky could have happened in states that don't have paper receipts. "EVERY STATE that has EVoting but no paper trails has an unexplained advantage for Bush of around +5% when comparing exit polls to actual results." On the other hand, "In EVERY STATE that has paper audit trails on their EVoting, the exit poll results match the actual results reported within the margin of error."

http://slate.msn.com/id/2109141/
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 05:54 PM
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1. sigh
i can only hope this makes waves.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:26 PM
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2. The fact this is getting any press
Is encouraging.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:40 PM
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3. Kick eom
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:56 PM
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4. Why does Slate's Levin "lie" to make the analysis look wrong?
http://slate.msn.com/id/2109141/
SLATE'S LEVIN SAID:
“Cannon's analysis doesn't jibe with Slate's exit-poll numbers. A comparison to the latest vote tallies shows Slate's final exit numbers in the paper-trail states of New Hampshire (undervalued Bush by 5 percent) and Nevada (undervalued Bush by 3 percent) were less accurate than those in Ohio (2 percent off), Florida (3 percent), and New Mexico (2 percent). The other state Cannon lists, Illinois, won't require a paper trail until 2006.”
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/NH/P/00/

Kerry 340,019 50% 4

Bush(Incumbent) 330,848 49% 0

Nader 4,447 1% 0
CNN’s EXIT POLL NUMBERS TIE TO THE ABOVE
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/NH/P/00/epolls.0.html
Updated: 11:39 a.m.

VOTE BY GENDER BUSH KERRY NADER
TOTAL 2004 2004 2004
Male (51%) 52% 47% 0%
Female (49%) 45% 54% 1%
Now .51 times .52 plus .49 times .45 is equal to .2652 plus .2205 = 48.57%

Where does he get BUSH UNDERVALUED BY 5% versus exit poll? IT LOOKS LIKE A ZERO ERROR!

But the Slate National Election Pool exit poll numbers were indeed at 2 pm
New Hampshire
Kerry 54
Bush 44
Nader 1

What were the final Slate/ National Election Pool exit poll numbers for NH?
http://www.exit-poll.net/pool.html requires a paid admission.

Or do the final numbers blow away his comment that exit poll with no paper trail was no worse than exit poll with paper trail?
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sandboxface Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:48 PM
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5. A great read, indeed! EOM
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