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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:12 PM Original message |
Obama calls for repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good. About time. - nt |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. He's called for it since 2007, you know. nt |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. No... I did not know that |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. In that case then, I apologize somewhat for my rather aggressive tone. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
137. We gave him control of the House |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. The Respect for marriage act was just introduced in marched and it |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. This is the second time it was introduced, actually. First time was in 2009. nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
78. Please see Reply 81. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
90. I hope this happens. Good job. Now, let's do it. :) |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. Didn't do anything about it when he had majorities in Congress |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Congress refused to pass the bill. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Did Obama announce support for it before July 2011? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. He has supported repealing DOMA since 2004, and specifically called for it in 2009. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #84 |
108. He took many positions since 2004 including opposing gay marriage. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. He took one position, in favor of repealing DOMA. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. Please see Reply 81 and links therein. |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #110 |
158. He is against gay marriage |
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zanana1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #72 |
164. Exactly. |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #164 |
178. So true. n/t |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #51 |
141. He only REALLY had 60 Senators for 4 months |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
156. He has also stated that it is a State's Rights issue |
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JRinMI (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
147. Reverend Wright, anyone? |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #147 |
148. Two things |
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zanana1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #147 |
165. You're showing your immaturity. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. he has always said this |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Links? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Here you go. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Seems like that was what Sen. Obama wanted. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Ahh, the joy of moving the goalposts! |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. i think it has something to do with how the 'buck' supposedly stops with Obama |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
81. It also has to do with things like what the WH sends to Congress, what Obama fights for and does not |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #81 |
125. The WH can say anything they want, yet they NEVER |
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Pab Sungenis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 06:56 AM Response to Reply #125 |
181. This is utter bullshit. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
123. Yep, if the buck never gets to Obama.....Aw, fuck it, nevermind. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. Ahh. The joy of mind reading. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. +1 --- |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
73. I do know what Congress would pass, because Congress DIDN'T pass DOMA repeal. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. You don't know what Congress would have passed in 2009 if Obama had strongly supported it. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Yes, I do. The idea that "strong support" materializes more votes is ridiculous. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. You and I can prove he tried for the Dream Act. That's the difference. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. And he called on Congress to pass DOMA repeal. They didn't. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. My position "seems to be?" I've stated my positions. No need to pull stuff out of your ear and |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. You say he didn't fight, and define "fighting" as anything he didn't do. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Bull puckie. Not what I did at all. See Reply 102. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 07:12 AM Response to Reply #82 |
143. It might have come down to getting Ben Nelson |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
154. What a mind reader. But not the point. The point is about Obama |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #38 |
128. BwaHAHAHAHAHHAH |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #128 |
157. So it's just tough shit for LGBT. Is that it? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #157 |
179. Turn the way the real world works upside down and your |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #179 |
184. So you prefer a world that doesn't work? |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
135. Oh yeah, I remember that majority Obama had, it was during the Depression, not the best time to call |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #135 |
160. Oh? |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #160 |
177. I'm all for it, but imagine durinf the depression he wanted congress to not focus on jobs and |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #177 |
185. That's a lovely set of reasons to avoid doing the right thing. |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
159. Exactly! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 07:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
142. Even in the 4 months where we had 60 Democratic Senators, |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #142 |
162. We will never know. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 12:53 AM Response to Reply #162 |
180. LOL. Easy to be a member of the |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #180 |
186. Hindsight is better than lacking foresight. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
79. Please see Reply 81. |
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LonePirate (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Where was this call two years ago when his party still controlled both houses of Congress? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. If he had done this two years ago, there wouldn't be all these "buts" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
94. And saying at Rick Warren's church that he did not believe in gay marriage. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. He called for it then too. Democrats in Congress couldn't pass it. nt |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Let's see the bill he sent over. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. The bill was unable to pass the House. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. Read your own source. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Deleted sub-thread |
No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
83. Links to his calling for it and fighting for it in 2009? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Here you go. Of course, you'll just move the goalposts again. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. The video is not there any more, but "I call on Congress" said at a press conference, |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
106. Thanks for proving me right. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #106 |
118. LOL! No, my definition of FIGHT requires more than "I call upon Congress" said once at a presser. |
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JNinWB (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #106 |
152. Perfect description of ODS.... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. When did we have 60 votes? Never. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. And we had that 58 plus 2 for what, 14 weeks? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
96. 14 weeks? Brown was not elected for a year AND he comes from a gay marriage state. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
95. Lieberman SUPPORTED leaving gay marriage to states. We had 60 for cloture. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #95 |
103. Bullshit. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. I responded very accurately to a comment about Lieberman. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. You claimed that we easily had 60 votes for cloture, which is bullshit. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #109 |
116. I never said we easily had 60 votes for cloture on this issue (or any issue). |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. It's literally four lines up from your post, you claiming we had 60 for cloture. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Again, try reading in the context of what I was responding to. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #124 |
126. Now you're trying to change what you said. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #126 |
133. No, I am disagreeing with your spin on what I posted. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Sen Franklin was sworn in July 2009, Sen Kennedy died August 2009 |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. And Senator Kennedy |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
100. Please see Reply 109. All you need is 60 who do not opposed cloture. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:27 AM Response to Reply #100 |
138. I am not politically illiterate. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
98. Kennedy was replaced by his hand picked successor. Brown is from Massachusetts, a gay marriage |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
149. yes! |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Opposes gay marriage, but also opposes DOMA |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. No, |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
101. He stated his personal belief was against gay marriage. See Reply 81. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:40 AM Response to Reply #101 |
140. His personal |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well. Good. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. It DIDN'T "take until now." He's been in support of repealing DOMA since before he ran. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Again. Anything from President Obama? |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. You are aware that Civilian Obama, Senator Obama and President Obama is the same person yes? n/t |
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LonePirate (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. 2008 Candidate Obama and President Obama are almost polar opposites of one another |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. You are aware that President Obama has more pull than Citizen Obama. |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #37 |
131. nope, all i'm arguing is that Obama is Obama whatever title is tossed infront of his name n/t |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #131 |
153. Which has nothing to do with the thread. But okay. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
76. As with a number of things, Obama has taken a few positions on gay marriage. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama, staying in the safe zone. How about doing something truly visionary for once |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. What is safe about calling for the repeal of DOMA? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. because it's ultimately window dressing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I'm concerned about real change. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. So you gripe because Obama can't rewrite US law by fiat. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. No, he cannot rewrite US law by fiat--oh wait, wasn't the kill order against that U.S. citizen |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
66. No--the kill order was done by act of Congress. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. The President signed off on the order. He was not required by law to do that. He could have |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. This is about CIVIL RIGHTS. If that doesn't concern you, tough. n/t |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I didn't say it didn't concern me... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Why first? Why not push your issues without complaining that this one is moving forward? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. because there are priorities |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Obama can have more than one priority at a time. Every President does. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Well, apparently the critical issues like ending the Wot and WoD |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. No it isn't. It has a substantial effect on gay military spouses and their families. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. which is all well-and-good, but as I pointed out |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Are you saying blow off DOMA because other stuff is more important? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. No, I'm saying worry about the critical issues first |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I think Obama and other agenda-pushers can hold more than one idea in their heads. NT |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. apparently not |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Well, that's your view. nt |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Coming out against DOMA doesn't impact those other issues that are more critical to you. |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
161. FUCK YOU IF YOU DO NOT THINK EQUALITY FOR ALL AMERICANS IS NOT A CRITICAL ISSUE |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #161 |
168. make that a double fuck you |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
172. Pony! |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
173. ~~~~~~~~ |
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Pab Sungenis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
176. Civil Rights are the only critical issues. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. "While it does help a certain subgroup"??????? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Yes. What part of that are you unclear on? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
88. Since DOMA repeal can't possibly pass before the election |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
174. Did I forget to say.... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
104. That depends on what your polling is telling you. |
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Muskypundit (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
32. Very surprised he would mention gay marriage |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
113. Please see Reply 116. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
34. It needs to happen, otherwise, the DOD is FORCED--by LAW--to discriminate against gay people. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
40. K&R |
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SleeplessinSoCal (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
49. All he can do now is use the "bully pulpit". Repetition will be the Mantra. On everything. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
50. Awesome. nt |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
52. good |
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Mr Deltoid (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
54. Bout time K&R |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
74. He's supported this the entire time he's been in federal government. |
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SpankMe (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
61. Too little too late. But, I'll take what I can get. |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
64. Fingers crossed! |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
67. Good, now I can consider voting for him a second time. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #67 |
121. By all means. vote for Obama in 2012, but not solely because of this. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
68. Civil Rights for All Americans ARE what I'm paying for with MY taxes. |
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dogmoma56 (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
69. 65% OF MAIRAGES FAIL.. god cant keep it together or it's BIG FUCK'n SHAM..my vote is it's a Sham |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
70. It's not Constitutional to create a permanent Civil-Rights-Underclass - LEGALIZATION of Discriminati |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Add this to the list with LEGALIZATION of theft, financial sector SUBSIDIES to take our money & refu |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
77. About fucking time! |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
89. About time? He's supported this the entire time he's been in federal government. |
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Duct Tape (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
92. * |
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Duct Tape (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
97. Well, we all know that during |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
99. He can "call for" it all he wants. It's pointless as long as Republicans have |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. DADT passed, things take time and hard work but this time Military Gay Couples can be out there |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
117. This is great news. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-02-11 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
120. Good. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
122. B-B-B-UT HE'S A HOMOPHOBE AND A TOOL OF |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:31 AM Original message |
Why do the need to repeal since DOJ has refused to defend |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
127. Why do the need to repeal since DOJ has refused to defend |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #127 |
130. that's why it needs to be repealed , so it's not up to the administration |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #127 |
150. DOJ only refuses to defend a portion of DOMA. The remainder, they still enforce. n/t |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #150 |
151. So it's an executive branch prerogative - and the next president |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #151 |
166. They may have to defend that position in court. And it depends on how it is written. |
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mrarundale (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
129. Anonymous is fake |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
132. On the issue of gay marriage, Obama, his wife and his D of J have given just about |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
134. Oh, crap. Is it election season already? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
136. Mr. President, I'm voting for you, |
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boomerbust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
139. Obama should be calling for |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
144. Asshole Naysayers |
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Sirveri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
145. Why now? Seems strange to push this now what with OccupyWallStreet happening. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #145 |
182. Election - cough - 2012 |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
146. Not sure what this means. Isn't Obama still "struggling" with the idea of gay marriage? nt |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
155. This piece of junk needs to disappear |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
163. But he still thinks it should be a matter of "states rights" |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. +1. |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
169. Har-Dee-FUCKING-HAR |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. No shit. Should HE be our leader - he is our president. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. It was a joke. A funny one. nt |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #171 |
183. I didn't think it was funny |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-03-11 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
175. If his actions matched his speeches, he would go down as one of |
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