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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:09 AM Original message |
Thousands flee bomb attacks by US drones |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. The ONLY moral War is one in which ONE freely puts ONE'S OWN blood on the line. nt |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:26 AM Original message |
Hey, drones have blood and feelings too, ya know! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. I have fucking HAD it!!! They create this SHIT and then WE pay for it with eternal Wars and |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Pakistani officials say drone attacks have been stepped up since President Barack Obama took office |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. wtf does that mean? |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Pakistani officials say drone attacks have been stepped up since President Barack Obama took office |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I wish someone would graph out the value sets of the major groups to see where the most overlap is. |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Maybe they are actually "FLEEING THE TALIBAN's" glorious rise to power so my question is |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
77. Cryptic nonsense. |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. There are no 3rd parties in the |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
55. Please stick with the topic at hand |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
84. I feel exactly the same way! Some fucking hope and change we've got-Not! |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
2. But, everyone said that Obama |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Obama always said that he would put more troops in Afghanistan |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Not everyone |
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biopowertoday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. I was surprized to hear him put |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. What you said! Great post. (nt) |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
65. Couldn't say it better |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Obama said time and time again that he would pursue attacks against AQ in Pakistan |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. What's with this constant spew that because "he said it" and we still |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. K & R for this post. nt |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. watch this post |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Reread the above post again and try to understand its larger context. |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
78. Excellent. |
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friedgreentomatoes (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
73. Those who expressed concern then |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. you didn't listen to what he said in the election soundbytes |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Yes, they were saying things that made them feel comfortable. Fantasies of moral abrogation. nt |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. Winning hearts and minds, one Hellfire missle at a time. |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. The floggings will continue until the hearts and minds lockstep in line |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
79. You don't speak for the women of Afghanistan |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 02:35 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Are there any RAWA statements made since details of Obama's strategy have been released? |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. I can't imagine that their position is any different now than last year. |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Drone's are not cool |
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biopowertoday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. The people say that |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. It will ONLY cause more of the SAME, i.e. it WON'T WORK, but apparently that's NOT the objective. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
71. It worked quite nicely in the '60s. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
9. Sick nightmare. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. losing autonomy |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Makes me think about the drones that Saddam Hussein was supposed to have had and how |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. Nothing good will come from this. |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
60. All of the above - and don't forget "Invasion USA" |
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Dangerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
63. Agreed. |
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ShareTheWoods (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. What's the body count from drones vs suicide bombers? |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Taliban don't do body counts |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. So, we should kill innocent people because they kill innocent people? |
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ShareTheWoods (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. no |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. What makes you think "they" are killing innocent people? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Tell me!! What the fuck would WE do, if this were happening to us??? |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Miscreants "blow up" girls' school at Bannu |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. No one approves of that. The question is how to prevent it. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
68. I would be .... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
20. Gawd damn it all to hell! Obama is just another warmonger! |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. It's certainly looking that way, isn't it? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. I suppose the alternative |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
59. False dichotomy. THERE COULD BE MORE OPTIONS. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 05:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
81. How is it "seventh century" for them to kill each other.. |
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Arrowhead2k1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. Why are you people so surprised? Obama said he was going to go harder in Afghanistan numerous times |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. I'm not surprised. I heard that. I was initially for Bill Richardson. nt |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
66. No surprise here. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
26. so iraq was the oil war and this is the opium/ heroin war-got to keep junkeys high |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. this is an oil corporate war also, in afghanistan |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
34. The article is somewhat misleading. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Thanks for this observation! We must not buy this idea that we can somehow make War without |
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bushmeister0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. Indeed. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Yep. |
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cosmicone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. Those who live by terror die by terror. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Missles fired by drones into homes containing innocents.... |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #58 |
74. Talking about humantiarian crisis, what about the Shias under siege in NW Pakistan? |
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irislake (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
37. Sheesh! |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
42. Well, that election worked. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
43. Pakistan violence on rise despite peace deal / The 'Talebanisation' of Pakistan |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
45. Why are we bothering those nice Taliban - they are just kidding when they say they want to complete |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Straw man. No one thinks we should not solve our problems. We think the bias in our approach |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. We need to demand that the media |
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trthnd4jstc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
49. No Innocent Blood Should Ever Be Spilled. We Create More Enemies By Collateral Damages. n/t |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
50. I'd like to see the imperialists and their armies get the hell out of the region. n/t |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
56. And my regard for Obama just sinks lower and lower. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
57. All of this for certain forms of economic development that it is quite apparent that |
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ernieferg (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
61. The Cherokee Test |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
62. So to whom does the evil of this war belong? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. it's Obama's war now.... |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-05-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. amen. nt |
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cambie (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Nope |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
76. This article has been snipped to make it look like it's only the drones |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-06-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
83. Goddamnit! Why in the F_CK are we fiting hot wars on 3 fronts? |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
85. we have to attack those barbarously-violent, totalitarian, school-attacking, fanatics |
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