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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 11:14 AM Original message |
Voter ID Battle Shifts to Proof of Citizenship: Could disenfranchise thousands of citizens |
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But.... (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is the front lines.. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. "No taxation without representation" |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Very good point! nt |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:07 PM Original message |
Lots of people pay taxes and have no representation. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
152. Sure. Are corporations persons? |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. "the next logical step" to voter disenfranchisement. nt |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. So the Powerful Rich and Right Wing Want to Disenfranchise |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. How exactly do you prove you're a citizen? Birth certificate? |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. original birth certificate, naturalization papers or a passport ... |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I know that's one way. Does anyone else know alternatives? |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. In the absence of a birth certificate, you were once able to establish it by affidavits |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. How 'bout Jesus Christ or St fucking Peter? |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. No, baptismal certificates won't work. |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. True. Thanks, Gormy. nt |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
59. My 92 year old grandmother provided proof that her sister is a citizen |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. And if she had already died? |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
148. As a member of the elderly and poor |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Lucky for her sister that there was longevity in the family! |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
80. At one time (and it is still on the books) you could establish it by the family bible. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
108. I think that only established your age, not your citizenship but |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
37. yes, and if you don't have an original, you'd be required to PURCHASE a new orginal copy - $20 in OR |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. And who is going to clean up the mess when it's all torn up? |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. THERE IS NO PROBLEM |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Am I right that even the advocates admit there is no problem? |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
109. Not really. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. And the battle shifts from the federal to state level |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Thanks so much for this info, suffragette! nt |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Thank you for posting this. It's so important. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. It's very difficult to apply for a passport without a birth certificate |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. And the more documents you need, the more you have to pay |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. I was born at home, my dad delivered me, the court house where my birth was recorded |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Provisions can be made in any law that would allow documentation. nt |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
18. My Grandmother would not of been able to vote, she doesn't have a |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
19. While there are problems, you have to start somewhere |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. This is about voting, not employment |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. They are linked, whether you like it or not. |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. you do know your position is embraced by |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. What is the problem? Who is voting who is not supposed to? |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I don't agree. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Well said! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Do you want more people to vote or fewer people to vote? |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. You don't have to agree. Free country, eh. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Is it? |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. That's a huge stretch. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. You want to disenfranchise millions of poor and elderly citizens to "solve" a nonexistent problem, |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
92. MILLIONS??? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Yes, millions. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
140. Exactly. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. What are the problems? Who is voting who is not supposed to? |
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Dumak (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. timing is everything |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
23. This is bullshit. When I got my Driver's License in GA, I had |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. Haven't you ever seen |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. So people are obtaining fake drivers licenses to vote illegally? |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Sure, why not? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. LOL. n/t |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
105. Whoop tee doo..... |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #105 |
142. It would make Election Fraud that much harder, |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
24. In Kansas, they don't need ID laws... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
25. Oh please, like illegal immigrants try to vote and are great enough |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
26. Furthermore, |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. "right to vote" |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. So since you can prove your citizenship, all our poor and elderly should be |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. The elderly have had YEARS |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. You have no clue whatsoever what life is like for our poorest citizens. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. LOL. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Oh, really? So tell me, where did you and the other homeless people you slept on the street with |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
86. In their fancy bank security boxes, and such! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #86 |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #86 |
99. here are the pertinent passages pertaining to the right to vote, dumbass. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. here's a link for ya too... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #99 |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
134. Nowhere. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Voter fraud? Give me a fucking break... |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. I don't know how many |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Exactly! Let's disenfranchise millions of elderly and poor because |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Wrong. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. And how would disenfranchising millions of poor and elderly |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Sorry |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Care to back up your assertions with anything other than hot air? |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. sure.. and when I do? |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. weren't there a bunch of 80 yr old+ nuns that were denied their right to vote? |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. cant deny a right that doesnt exist |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Just because it's not a federal right doesn't mean it's not a right. |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. care to expand on that? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. What state do you live in other than denial? n/t |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. There are technically no federal elections.. |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. And what if the state decides to assign their electors regardless of the popular vote? |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. hmm, go ahead and throw out ridiculous "what if" scenarios... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #112 |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. then you know what you do? |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
147. A few years ago I took my mother to get a state id card |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. ALL our poor and elderly? |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. My Mother is elderly |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. "All of these 'poor and elderly' better get their shit together if they want to vote!" |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
143. Tone of voice. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Read what I wrote again. n/t |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Sounds good to me. n/t |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. hmm.. who to believe? |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. believe the one with the facts to support him |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. So what is your point? Would you like to go back to days before |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #70 |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. You tell us, Jim Crow! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. You are ignorant and well out of your league here. |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. yes I am familiar with them so what? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. What term is commonly used to refer to laws such as these, which were widely enacted in the USA |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #101 |
110. You must be speaking a different language |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. Your own words betray you. |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Thats your assesment and its wrong |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. I never made any such claim. But I can see why you want to change the subject. |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. Again, that is your false assesment |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Nice try. Now try addressing your own words. |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. I did address them, again, you are wrong |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. It's called democracy, cnc1970. |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. So you think we are a democracy? No surprise there |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. I'm not the surprised in the least that you find this distinction so compelling. |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. Despite the best attempts by members of the government I would say so. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. Yes, government is our enemy, but authoritarianism is our friend. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #139 |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. did I say explicit? |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #82 |
98. You said there is a constitutional right to vote for president you were wrong |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Congratulations, Justice Scalia! |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. also, the words "right to vote" DO appear in the Constitution.. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #113 |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #104 |
114. I did, so what? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Once again, who is the "they" who is going to change YOUR state's |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. we arent in that much of a disagreement on the issue |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. It's not an real issue, just like "voter fraud" is not a real issue. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #125 |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. No, small minded people try to come up with reasons to exclude |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. I wouldn't disagree |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Oh, I'd say it's highly relevant. |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Im sure you would think so, you have gotten most things wrong so far |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. furthermore, it is not an "honor" to vote... |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
120. Only propertied white men were allowed to vote |
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cnc1970 (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
151. jesse jackson JR DEMOCRAT on this issue |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
34. All Dems should vote absentee. |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
35. How many voters don't have their birth certificates and won't pay $20 or so to get a replacement? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
39. Achtung ...your papers? |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
41. If you are a Citizen |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. It's easy for YOU to prove your citizenship. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. For people having difficulties |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
75. You have to have a mail box to receive an absentee ballot. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #75 |
144. Driving is A Right in my book |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #144 |
153. It doesn't matter what you think. It matters what the CA Supreme Court thinks. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #75 |
145. Are you saying that people with walkers don't have mailboxes? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #145 |
154. What I'm saying is that you have no clue how our frailest and poorest |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
93. how many poor or elderly will be traveling outside the US? |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #93 |
138. Racebaiting? Are you nuts? |
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2peaches2 (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. It can be really hard for some. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
146. It may be hard for some |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
42. There are issues that requires sterner participation |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
124. thousands! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
149. I would support it 100% if the process |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
150. Wow, the Bushies are FULL SPEED AHEAD in securing unchecked power for decades, even centuries |
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